Speaking of Wells Fargo, California treasurer John Chaing said yesterday the state will halt investments in Wells Fargo securities for a year and will also stop using Wells Fargo as a broker-dealer for buying investments and not use Wells Fargo as an underwriter for California state bonds where the treasurer assigns the role. California’s treasurer is one of the largest bond issuers in the nation

Now the labor board is investing WF for firing employees who called to report on the fraudulent bank accounts they forced employees to open.

I hope WF gets taken down. Anybody that still banks there and lets these crooks use their funds has been warned and I believe they are just as responsible for keeping this bank viable. That’s how karma works. My advice is get out now if anybody reading is still with WF

/SB that was priceless, meant to list that braggadocio thing in my list of trump debate faves yesterday.

You’re a fabrication of Mischa’s? Just one more beautiful fabrication of her brilliant mind.

Prism princess, what is the chostelo exactly?

11 Beatrice, thank you and listen they are everywhere and they’re usually charming manipulators in which case you become a willing participant … living in cognitive dissonance until one day in a moment you listen to your inner self that’s been in a slightly baffled state and you realize he/she/they have been gaslighting you. (Making you think you’re the crazy or sensitive or angry one – over nothing) you have to always be mindful it can happen slowly. Speaking of, we’ve been dumbed down in this society over time, through indoctrination of religion mostly, make sure you’re filling in your little girls dressed in their best for church on Sunday that the books are written down by men after a lot of years of playing a game of telephone so at best it’s got symbolism and at its worst it’s got rules that don’t serve the greater good of women. You can say all that nicely so you don’t scare your kids.

SuzyQ, did you catch Elizabeth Warren taking out the CEO of Wells Fargo? Search it in YouTube, luv her.

22 Kalvin, luv the satire : )

25 Sonya we def have fallen, common sense is even all that common anymore.

~ ZL

Who really cares whether he appoints people to the courts who take narrow and limited views of freedom of expression and speech? Anti-choice, even birth control–you are just trying to scare us!

We will protest our way to fixing things. We know that Rudy Giuliani, as Attorney General, has a soft spot for progressives. As the saying goes, “Sometimes to be progressive, you have to go regressive.”

The American Empire exists and will continue to exist after election, regardless of election results. It does not rest on the will of any one office holder. Within that reality specific courses and events will occur as a result of the election.

That Hillary Clinton will pursue a course to a nuclear WW III or some mildly lesser horror is an article of faith among some posters. It is safe to say most Americans do not see that as a realistic assessment. There is risk in her foreign policy inclinations, but nowhere near that risk. So within the reality of a declining but still very real American Empire we accept that risk.

We are more directly and immediately concerned with the course of the country itself. Pragmatically, we assume that she will appoint to her administration broadly liberal, rather technocratic persons.

Courts, from the Supreme Court on down will be filled, again, with broadly liberal to moderate judges. We expect to see vetoes or signings roughly in line with what we have seen from Obama. That is largely a function of what occurs with and in congress. That is my pragmatic assessment of a vote.

This assessment I think would stand regardless of the republican candidate.

My other reason for my vote is more fundamental, particular, and firmly principled. It is the reason that seems to set some “progressives” into a tizzy.

A broadly racist, militant white nationalist movement has achieved leadership in the Republican Party. That leadership, with wide support among the white population, expressly advocates a range of racist actions, positions, and policies.

I believe it the duty, the utter duty, of progressive Americans to oppose that racist movement, even if it came dressed, as such movements have in the past, with the most populist and popular of programs. We have failed too often in that duty.