Happy Thanks Giving to all.

Please check out Limbaugh”s take on Thanksgiving.

He is our disgrace. He makes me ashamed to be white.

Grace

Speaking of that, just observing, when someone says ‘no offense’ hmmm, yeah right, you were fully intending to say your piece offense notwithstanding. My bitch: just cop to that, you offend, you offend, it would be my problem to decide if I want to warrant you enough clout in my life to give a flying one what you say about me, no?

Ok I am outta here…! ZL

HI Misch, I hear ya, sistah, I do have a fire in my heart, belly and…so when I’m feeling inclined I will rail, how’s that?

I do have some commnets to commenters to make now and then I’m out of town for a few : )

Larry, nice usage of the but word I prefer it’s double t usage more often than not…I’ll address you again a little later ; )

Clarence, there is an element of truth to your comment, what you say about being fair minded, I am definitely that always…now let me give my huge disclaimer: IF all Muslim males over the age of ten (yes, all bc they perpetuate cruelty to women and it’s indoctrinated young and relentlessly) along with all men who harbor sexist BS and racist BS in their heads suddenly disappeared, I for one, wouldn’t ask after them, bad men can go to bad man hell for all I care. Now about being fair minded, and it’s probably the reason why I may at times sound less vehement about men in general, it is in my world, let’s say Western world of US living to be responsible and accountable for your own actions, so male or female, when you decide to treat another badly, either using your racist remarks, your religious doctrine to further either the male/female agenda and/or ‘cheat’ on a spouse (as opossed to disclosing and having an ‘agreement’)
you are lacking in one of those character traits and I find it just as shitty in either sex, so maybe men do cheat more, maybe women cheat more statistically lately bc they are revenge fucks, who knows? I’m just wondering if we can’t just hold ourselves to a higher standard no matter what someone else chooses to do.

If your man is an asshole, does cheating help or would disolving the union help more? If your woman is a bitch, does cheating help or would disolving the union help more? Or maybe your partner changed dramatically (or you have) after the vows but don’t cheat, it’s just not possible to stay together anymore, oh you know, there a million scenarios that I could lay out but let’s say that when you make the decision to ‘keep the marraige’ together and forgive/forget/overlook (or honor and obey : ) and all that yudda yudda that there’s a certain accountability and responsibility that goes along with it…males tend to shirk this ‘duty’ more than females, I will say that.

Jodi, spy/don’t spy, just be sure you’re clear about what that means either way, this is exactly the kind of responsibility I am talking about. If you would rather not know, then know that he may be gay and you are choosing not to know, also that means that if he someday (out of the cleae blue sky) wants a divorce and ends up with a male, you really can’t justify a ‘he fucked me over all these years’ rant, on the flip, if you do spy, what is it you’d like to do with the info if you fould out he were gay (or not…) would you ask to watch, join in, turn your head to that biz but just be aware now? What’s the intent?

Scott, oh baby, Dora made me laugh right out loud with that fart thing : ) but yes, you’ve got some of your facts wrong and some of context wrong as well, no matter, I’ve been misquoted, taken out of context and a numebr of other thinsg here : ) #1, my marriage is estranged, and he lives out of state at the moment, no legalities done yet, no need, neitehr one of us want to tie knots with anyone else and when we do, we will (it’ll be him, I ain’t doin’ dat again), estranged as is grew apart, blah blah blah…there was no big blow out of anyone being wronged, just having different needs that weren’t being met, unfortunate bc we did the business of marriage well together, you could ask ‘then what’s the problem’ but that’s just personal stuff and since he’s not here I’m not comfortable disclosing for him, we get along quite well, I am ZL after all : ) and we are spending Thanksgiving together…and there’s nothing weird about it either…for that I am thankful : )

Also Scott, I do not look for every opportunity to defend men, I simply won’t participate in venomous language towards them, period, and add what I read up top about resp/accountability, goes for all (except read my disclaimer also), and yes, if that isn’t tight enough for women here or anywhere then so be it.

Brittany, I never said the ‘doting’ hubbies were anything but that, they could be assholes, or as I see it, they’re just dweebs trying to please (and they have little chances with other women out there) though they could be gay for all I know. Or maybe they have an ‘agreement’ and they carry on with their ‘family unit’ for a variety of other reasons. There are a lot of understandings that can be reached in terms of alliances, some marriages may even incldue more than 2 parties (I think I like that, 2 men and me) hahaha…and right on with the ‘honor and obey’ goes both ways.

Larry, Carl and Morris, I would love to accomodate but I’m leaving shortly for my own celebration and will be reading but probably will not have time to comment or get pics in, soon….

On that note, women I’m going to give you a quick scene and you tell me what’s wrong with the picture. Let’s see how you see it. I was in a restaurant the other night, as I rounded a corner two men who were seated at a table facing me stopped listening to their across the table mate and looked me up and down, a few times, I get this bc in the outfit I was wearing my legs alone look six feet tall, then add the rest of me : ) the man and woman across the table could only see my back as I walked into the ladies room, on the way out I was now facing the couple, he was a large black man, she was a pretty black woman, he stopped his pontificating to look me up and down carefully garnering a small laugh out of the other men and when I passed by the woman muttered (oh and loud enough for me to hear, of course) ‘skinny bitch’ ok, what up with that? Firstly, just my opinion, yes men go ahead and look but when you disrespect the women your with, your asking for it…and yet, she’d rather dis me than tell him then or later that he was behaving disrespectfully towards her. Oh whatever…but seriously, when are women going to stop throwing ther women under the bus? As males say, ‘keep em’ insecure’ and if you’re willing to buy it ladies, then own it, and that’s my last two about responsibility. Would love to hear your perception of that little scenario, is there anything I could’ve/should’ve done?

Happy Thanksgiving to US commenters, all others, have a great week : )

Luv, Zen Lill