VAGINA: Call It What It Is
Posted by Michelle Moquin on September 19th, 2012
Good morning!
Readers: Sorry for the late post. I published it at 9:40 AM, but just discovered it was in “pending”. Not sure how it got there.
Carl: Just the definition of the words are so telling. I don’t understand why someone would be proud to call themselves a “conservative”, when the word itself is so unappealing, so closed minded.
Yes, Alycedale, I will assume they did. Let’s HOPE that their eyes have been opened and they have smartened up enough to dump the ignorant, could care less, LSOS at the polls.
Herba: Although this book has been out for years, I have yet to read it. Thanks for the reminder.
Speaking of…your comment prompted me to post this interesting article, and to order Wolf’s new book “Vagina”. Thanks again.
Not Seeing the C-Word (Or Even the V-Word)
I can report that the sky has not fallen. The end of days has not come.
The Apple iTunes Bookstore continues to function as normal, despite an about-turn which means that a reader seeking Naomi Wolf’s new book can now search for ‘Vagina’ and not, as was initially the case, be dazzled by a row of typographical stars from the ‘V****a’ firmament.
The odd flush of coyness which at first colored Apple’s cheeks was easily overcome. The corporate behemoth quickly responded to its customers’ demands and started treating them as adults. But we forget the retailer’s preliminary recalcitrance about the word ‘vagina’ at our peril. Apple emphasized, in its silly censorship, the urgent need for a book such as the one Wolf has written.
Further, the recent spate of Wolf-baiting by reviewers of her book also serves to emphasize the publication’s timeliness. Twitter, that cultural zeitgeist, is an especially fertile breeding-ground for virulent comments. Here, the uninformed and the unkind weigh in with their vitriol, turning not to the book itself, but to other reviews as the bearers of meaning.
The tone of these assessments of Vagina was set by the reviewer who openly tweeted: “I haven’t read it yet,” but who went ahead and wrote a review anyhow, headed: “We deserve better than this claptrap.” Another tweeter delighted in the fact that a different reviewer “tore Naomi Wolf a new one.” This language is shot through with poison and hatred — and, in a powerful irony, is just what Wolf addresses in her book. Uncritical and malicious dismissals of Wolf’s latest work simply confirm the validity of its arguments.
Those arguments highlight an uncomfortable truth for many of Wolf’s detractors. For until we have a language and a platform for talking honestly about women’s bodies and sexual drives, we’re doomed into a cycle of objectification and silence. It’s telling that so much of the criticism of Naomi Wolf has been ad hominem (or, more accurately, perhaps, ad feminam): attacking the author, and not the book.
Wolf’s book is so important precisely because she has brought to light the power and — dare I say, mystery — of female sexuality. We inhabit a culture where women’s genitals are routinely commodified, at best, and butchered at worst. Wolf has stuck her head above the parapet and has demanded a nuanced debate which has, alas, emerged in only a few quarters.
Even the most cursory glance at the etymologies behind the vocabulary used in talking about women’s bodies suggests that much still needs to be done. What does it mean to live in a culture where the most awful epithet is the only accurate term for describing a woman’s genitals? What does it mean to stop the c-word being the seen-word?
Some may argue that Wolf’s title is a misnomer. But what alternatives did she have? Germaine Greer rightly rejected the word “vagina” some years ago because of its etymological associations with a “swordsheath”; and, despite the best efforts of the writer Inga Muscio, few publishers are going to contemplate calling a book C***. The woman, and far less, man, on the street, probably isn’t sure what a “vulva” is; and if we turn to that odd word “pudenda,” we quickly find its Latinate associations with “shame.”
Feminists should celebrate a plurality of feminisms. We should welcome diverse voices to the debate. When those voices are “wrong,” we should build counter-arguments and articulate and negotiate our differences. All new ideas, all paradigm shifts and tipping points, are signaled by a left-field agitation such as the one Vagina supplies. They are also usually greeted with a skepticism born of fear and fueled by hate.
The tweeters and reviewers who denigrate Wolf and her book shun intellectual difficulty, instead flimsily establishing easier and frequently ad hominem critiques. They want Wolf to have written a different book. Well, she didn’t. And emptily decrying the one that she did write will not advance crucial debates about women’s bodies one jot.
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Readers: One can think about it…desire it…covet it…and they do. But please don’t say it. Vagina VAGINA VAGINA. Ahhh…that feels good. Rolls off the tongue nicely doesn’t it?
Hank: I’ll answer with a resounding “Yes”!
Gary: You’re either a tiny dick white boy, completely stupid, or my best guess, both. Speaking of responsibility and accountability, I think you’re missing something very important – we need responsible voters who can be held accountable for the choices they make. Do you understand?
Zen Lill: I HOPE you and yours are doing better.
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September 19th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Yes, Jesus was married. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/us/historian-says-piece-of-papyrus-refers-to-jesus-wife.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
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He was married to Mary Magdalene. If that name rings a bell, she is the woman pope Gregory called a peccatrix, meaning a sinful woman. While he did not call her a meretrix, prostitute, he was more than willing to give rise to the image of Mary as a prostitute.
The reason is the church had documents showing that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and they wanted to discourage any from speculating in that area.
So men being the pieces of shit they can be, decided to slander Jesus’s wife throughout history.
Sick
Alycedale
September 19th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Interpreting this scrap of papyrus, and determining whether Jesus was married, will not alter my opinion about organized religion: that it is the exploitation of spirituality to control people and isolate power, and that it is generally, and ironically, intolerant
September 19th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I was going to comment on this, but in the end decided not to, since it *doesn’t matter”. The only thing I can see out of all this is how this investigation gives all of academia a bad name. Useless.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
In a number of books published about the life of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, it was suggested that she was married to him and she even bore him a daughter.
This was not unusual for a Jewish man in Palestine of his age and at that time; the reverse would have been unusual. But even if he were married, this does not detract from his message.
History was rewritten 3 or 4 centuries later at the council of Nicea where the content of the new Testament was edited by a group of male priests.
I believe it was there that the marital status of Jesus was decided and the question of celibacy for the priesthood was set in stone.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Jesus does have a wife … the church.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
It’s hard to believe that so many Christians are unwilling to open their minds and hearts to new evidence that shows a different role for women.
Priests married until about 1000CE and continue to do so in the Orrthodox church. Why does Christianity, despite the reformation, et al, still stick to the vote of the Council of Nicaea in the 4th century on which the choice of gospels was made?
The other gospels are available today, along with the Nag El Hammadi gospels found in 1947. Anyone who doesn’t read them isn’t qualified to make judgments about who and what Jesus was We are not in the 4th century anymore.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Clearly this issue does not matter to some believers, and it matters very much to others. And it seems to matter very, very much to doctrinal sticklers in the Catholic Church (and perhaps in some other denominations).
If Jesus’ marriage could be proven, and the legitimacy of female “apostles”, the implications for the Catholic Church would be world-shaking, and enormously positive. Priestly marriage, female leadership, and the active engagement of priests (and bishops and popes, of both genders, etc.) in family life (complete with PTA meetings and soccer games and car-pooling for band practice) would vastly improve not only the Catholic Church, but the entire world that the Catholic Church touches. An array of clerical abuses would disappear in a generation, and even larger institutional abuses would be averted.
But the “truth” is beyond recovery. Jesus lives in a legendary realm; we will never know the actualities of his life–his story, greatly embellished, has taken on a life of its own. The hints within the New Testament that women were allowed to be, and were fully capable of being, community leaders is pretty strong. But, barring some unimaginable documentary find that could be irrefutably dated to the first four decades of the common era, the “truth” will remain in the realm of faith.
So that means that nothing will change.
But for serious historians of religion, this is a cool find.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
The idea that there should be “priests” who are forbidden to marry is an invention of the Catholic church; not 1st century Christianity. The Apostle Paul writes at 1 Tim 4:3, that forbidding to marry would be one identifying mark of apostates that would contaminate true Christianity.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
It would be fun to count how many commenters are certain that this fourth century document is invalid because other fourth-century documents (a.k.a. the New Testament) told them so.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
The Right is tripling down on their efforts to prevent many in there states from voting.
Threats and big donations are being made to the Judges who are tasked with deciding the issues on wether these laws are legal.
From inferior to broken voting machines are being moved to areas where OTWs and elderly will be voting. They Right has trained many “”Poll volunteers” to intimidate and scare away voters.
There is nothing the Right will not try to steal this election.
Mike,TM
September 19th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
I am so not a Romney supporter, but I agree with him on this. He is saying we are blessed to be born in this country rather than China. He seems to be disgusted by the conditions at the plant.
There is so much wrong with Romney that you don’t need to manufacture the bad. Don’t attack the good part of Romney, attack the bad.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I read the article you published Michelle, Wow…..he’s raving about Slave Labor. And it’s really sick how he keeps mentioning “the girls.” Unbelievable.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
You liberals can slant this blog all you want. But in the end Romney will help us take back our country.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Mitt is doing what he has always done and that is to Bully–name calling is part of that. He is devoid of all empathy unless you are one of his bowing family members.
I am retired from Teaching since 1998. I paid into a pension plan, several annuities, medicare plus the many taxes that are automatically deducted from your paycheck.
I raised my daughter as a single parent with no help from her father. Since retiring I have bought a home, paid my bills, paid my taxes, and continue to support myself and my daughter who has not been able to find a job.
I can’t remember the last time I was ill. In no way have I ever use any government help for anything including my College education, which my parents paid for because that was their responsibility as parents. I paid for my MS degree. Mitt has no idea, nor does he want to know, how a normal American citizen lives. This country will be destroyed if he is elected President.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Are we better off? America is in debt, but it is not broke. The answer is to tax the corporations that send jobs overseas, to increase capital gains tax and cut middle income tax.
Cutting taxes on the wealthy is never the answer. The middle class fuel the economy. The simple answer is consumer demand is what matters.
Corporations cheat taxes, we need to create tougher, smarter tax rules to catch corporate tax havens in Ireland, Cayman Islands and every where else. We stop military activity, we have less debt
September 19th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Mike,TM you are more right than others may accept. Judges are being bought to rule for purging the rules.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Have you read Too Big to Fail? Or the many articles on Lehman’s failure? How about BOA’s fines within their lending department where internal controls were so loose, an employee became a whistle blower?
Republican argument: government forced the banks to lend? Oh come off it. No matter the evidence, it is blame the government and the corps are innocent. These are multi billion instittions that can lobby and pay off politicians, and they were helpless?
September 19th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Cheaper pay, kinda like the illegal immigrants that are hired for less than American workers? Work in unsafe conditions because the employer knows they won’t complain.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Hafa adai, I know Anna wrote about this but it needs repeating. Icky spiders are taking over Guam, and we could be next.
If spiders freak you out, steer clear of Guam. Researchers say that since the island was taken over by brown tree snakes, its spider population has exploded 40-fold. “You can’t walk through the jungles on Guam without a stick in your hand to knock down the spiderwebs,” says the study’s lead scientist.
Brown tree snakes arrived on the island in the 1940s and spent 50 years munching their way through the entire bird population, leaving the jungles eerily quiet. With no birds to eat the spiders, steal their webs to make nests or compete for insect meals, experts think spiders happily proliferated — resulting in the horror flick-worthy concept of us living on the “Planet of the Spiders.”
September 19th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
There are also many RICH that think they are victims, because they dont think they should have to pay taxes. AND THEY DO NOT!!!
One of them is running for president, and refuses to show his tax returns, because it would be really hard to criticize someone that makes $15,000 a year for not paying taxes, , when HE makes $25,000,000.00 PLUS ++++++++++ a year and pays NOTHING!!!!!!! SHOW YOUR TAXES MITT!!!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Obama seems to think that him (Obama) being an obnoxious jerk makes him cool.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Here is the missing two minutes:
So let me tell you those 47% that don’t pay taxes they are a lot of my base, they don’t know it and won’t believe it but they are.
I know if I can just preach dependency even to the white people that are dependent I will get their vote. You know how this works everyone wants to feel superior.
I know we really are superior we just have to pretend we don’t think we are until November. After November when I trash entitlements and turn Social Security over to your hedge funds to play with you will all thank me
September 19th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
THATS PRESIDENT OBAMA TO YOU!!! Lon tiny penis boy.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
why does he always have time for Letterman…..he is not a celebrity and I think he thinks he is….he was voted in office not celebrity office….
September 19th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Obama’s press conferance on Letterman while fundraising while the Middle East is burning him in effigy.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Obama is a reasonable person that at times I disagree with. Romney is a spoiled rich kid who refuses to admit he is where he is because he came from a life of privilege.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Romney went to Harvard where he received his MBA and law degree, with honors, SIMULTANEOUSLY.
Oh, he was also married with children at the time.
Does that sound like a rich man’s kid skated by on dad’s money?
September 19th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Thank you for the clear distinction! A President that tours talk shows, hangs out with the pimp-with-a-limp! The choice is crystal clear!
September 19th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
So, POTUS shows a little spontaneous humor and chit chat and folks get all negative on him! Just because Mitt is incapable of that, you need to lighten up a little.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Mitt is iterviewing for POTUS, Obama is interviewing for a new reality show, after he loses in November!
September 19th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
I’m for public assistance and I like Florida’s rule of a drug test before the check and the other rules that apply to the parasites that abuse the system.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Wonder how much MITT pays in Federal taxes…… I guess we will have to wonder, while he critizes the poor….because he will not show us his taxes. What are you hiding Victim MITT!!!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Todd, Why does Romney always have time for Fox News’ attempt at entertainment.
Why does Ryan have time to run for vice president while still a representative and also run for re-election as a representative.
It’s campaign season. But it does make you wonder what do incumbents do with all the free time they have when they are not running for office since they can take all this time off from their jobs during the campaign.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Its called “The Bully Pulpit”. Up until about 25 years ago, the President would often go on TV for an hour or so to present and discuss his plans for the economy, or foreign policy initiatives. In prime time. TV networks would all give him free time to do so.
This is simply a more modern way of doing it.
If Romney were doing it as POTUS, you would be silent.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I look at the muslim men complaining about their god being disgraced and I think these idiots should be more concerned about the treatment they inflict upon their females.
They are so easily offended by a slight to the excuse they use to abuse women. It’s like yelling “Pork!!!” in a crowded mosque.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
OK guys, how about this… If your God doesnt like these people talking bad about your precious Mohammad, have him smite them down! You know why he doesnt do that? because he doesnt exist!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Even Mrs Romney wouldn’t vote for Mitt if half of Ms Streisand’s arguments were true. It’s too bad that partisans feel they have to distort Romney’s or Obama’s positions, beliefs and records in order to score points.
President Obama is a decent and honest man–as is Mitt Romney. They have genuine disagreements about the proper role of the federal government in American life.
It’s a debate that stretches all the way back to the founders. There is no need to vilify the record and character of either candidate; it only hardens positions and makes understanding and compromise more difficult.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
I just love the blame game. The hand ringing guilt, flowing liberally, for publishing falsehoods assumed as fact. Besides the well published “A.P. Style Guide”, professional journalists are accountable for reliable sources and if not first hand observation, they are required to have second or even third hand conformation of the facts they write about.
Most importantly, reporters have a duty to be be unbiased and report well supported facts covering the usual “who, what, when, why and where?” The media, in it’s desire to get a “scoop” or meet a deadline is far too easily used by heavily biased agendas to advance a cause or perspective.
The real story is that someone on the fringe of society, made a lame video and posted it on YouTube (certainly within their rights) that cost American diplomats their lives and how the media failed miserably to disconnect the US government and it’s citizens from the tasteless, and to the Islamic world, offensive upload.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Fuck kissing arab men’s asses. Jews didn’t riot because of The Passion of the Christ.
Christians didn’t riot because of The Life of Brian.
I’m all for respecting religion, but I’ll be damned if you can get an iota of respect out of me when the respect is demanded in threatening tones. Fuck these “let me use god to sexually enslave women and practice pedophilia” murders.
September 19th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Get ready for another round of crazy arab behavior. French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo published cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad on Wednesday, a move criticised by the French authorities which sent riot police to protect the magazine’s offices.
Issues of the magazine hit newsstands with a front cover showing an Orthodox Jew pushing a turbaned figure in a wheelchair with several caricatures of the Prophet on its inside pages, including some of him naked.
The front page cartoon had the wheelchair-bound figure saying “You mustn’t mock” under the headline “Untouchable 2″, a reference to a hugely popular French movie about a paralysed rich white man and his black assistant.
September 19th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
All you folks should consider easing up on Romney soon. After all, he just flushed away about half the citizens. Typical old line Republican style, a machine wears out throw it away/ write it off !
How does it feel to be written off and tossed out my this Vulture Capitalists ? This heartless clown has self destructed. Maybe the GOPers will find a way around this mess. Retroactively maybe they can have a do-over of their convention ! L M A O – B T !
September 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
West,
Harvard has one of the worst records in the US on student cheating and giving fake As. If anyone goes to Harvard, I’m suspect of the value of their education.
In reality, one could say that Harvard is where Romney learned to cheat and lie.
September 19th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Thanks, Mischa, I’m just laying low and taking care of my peeps, unfortunately, another tragedy occurred with someone else…so – I’ll give my warning since i hate Western medicine and the casual way people treat ‘routine procedures’ without much second opinioning or questioning docs and researching/trying a natural route for pain relief first and surgery as a very very last resort. Especially women with women issues, think long and hard for an alternative (and I am in NO WAY blaming her for her doctors slip up, I’m sure he will pay in reputation and in soul searching). Remember surgeons get paid to do surgery not suggest alternatives, you have to do your own research, no matter how easy and ‘it’s done everyday’ it sounds, statistics of surgeries gone bad are only meaningful if you’re one of the ‘gone bads’. Accidents occur in surgery much more than you think, this one is paying the ultimate price, an accidental snip of a colon and sepsis has left her a quad amputee, more often than not you die from sepsis though. I’m sick for her and her family…
& I’m ordering this book.
I think they’re enough being said about Ro-money here, I’ll save my two for eleventh hour discussion.
#2 Jeff, I could not agree more.
Luv, Zen Lill
September 19th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Carol, every institution has a few bad characters. But Harvard is also where we got the greatest president the US has ever had.
I suspect that you are reacting from some feeling that a relationship with a woman would make your god less of a god. Too bad that you have been so brain washed as to feel your gender could somehow lessen a man.
I was raised to believe that blacks were inferior. I spend 40 plus years discriminating against them. Never hired one during my managing years. I regret that now.
I didn’t vote for President Obama the first time. I won’t make that mistake this time. I hope you will not need as long to discover that society has a way of manipulating out thinking so that it reflect their prejudices.
Eric
September 19th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Wow! this is some blog. I have been reading if for a week. I went back a few months. I really like this blog. At first I was going to say it was without a theme. But the theme is obvious it is about women with anything you care to add thrown in.
I love the open rawness. I can write fuck and not flench. Will some one list the regulars so far all I get have found are Social Butterfly, Zen Lill, Howie, and Mike,RT.
Terri
September 19th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
The missing books of Gnostics explains what is missing in the bible today. The man Jesus did exist and the evidence was removed from the modern Bible. see the “Apocryphal Gospels”
September 19th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
He was prob married.. wasnt white and probaby didnt perform miracles. There were at least 10 others like Jesus around at the time saying the same things as he was. Jesus was good at P.R and so thats why Christianity took off. Jesus could have existed but God? Dont think so.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
That papyrus was taken from the National Museum of Iraq in 1991. It and more than 3,000 other artifacts. Then came the looting in 2003. More thousands of ancient Biblical, Torah, and islamic documents were looted.
Many times members of the Roman clergy came often to peruse our historical documents. I am certain they were aware of the marriage of Jesus. He was merely a prophet in our Koran, but he was known to have been married.
It is amusing to note the consternation that hearing your God was married has brought to you. What you don’t feel women are as good as men in your culture too, but you hypocrites lie. That is until someone proves he was with a woman.
Christens are no different that others jealously guarding the lies about their gods.
Abdul-Hakim
September 19th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
It would appear that the gods like human pussy as well as human males. I think it is about time aliens sampled the goods.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
There is no more a christian, jewish or muslim god than there is any truth to the lie that Henry VIII was chosen by god to rule or that the pope is god’s representative on earth.
Some need a god to pray to and that is fine if it makes them feel better, hopeful and bestows an inner peace. I personally am just glad to see the sun rise every day.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Ironically the “story” of Jesus Christ has been told many times over the millennia, and there are several commonalities, the most prevalent one being the son of the sun God.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Michelle, I don’t know what all those who applaud you blog are experiencing, but all I have experienced is difficulty finding it(most days it is either not up or I get some notice from my search engine that it doesn’t exist), posting on it( here I could get anything form you have already said that to total refusal to accept the post), or reading it( the comments don’t identify who their comment is to so you are left to guess what the heck they are referring to).
I don’t even know why I bother to read this blog. The hate with which the people on it attack each other is pure evil at times. Homophobia, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, you name it, it has been expressed here.
Then there is the Ignorance And the phonyism!!!!! You not only have people on this blog that believe in UFO, aliens, For God’s sake you have aliens writing to it.
Give me a break.
Andrew
September 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
For groups as deeply rooted in tradition as the Christians are, and even more so the Vatican in all its patriarchal raiment, any radical new discovery that presents hard evidence will not be allowed as admissible evidence.
Once you’ve donned the blinders and fully embraced the I’m-right-and-you’re-wrong mentality, no changes of belief will ever be allowed.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
It doesn’t change his teachings in the least, whether he was married or not. The essence of his teachings has really nothing to do with organized religion and if his teachings were actually lived, rather than talked about, there would be no need for church.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Hate to break it to everyone butttttt…”Religion”= cause of millions if not billions of deaths. In my opinion “Religion”= Root of all evil.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Many Gnostics WERE early Christians. Just because the church doesn’t consider Gnostic writings as “inspired” doesn’t mean they weren’t considered important works in their day. The books of the Bible were selected by men, not divine intercession.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Paul was married and either divorced or a widower as he was a Pharasee. PETER the 1st Pope was Married !! “Jesus healed Peters Mother In Law.”
If the accepted Gospels were “inspired” then they would not deviate or contradict each-other and they DO on many counts. Because a small group of men, who used murder and torture to enforce the “inspiration” doctrine does not equal “inspiration”, unless your inspired not to have a hot poker inserted in your privates in a dungeon. The modus operandi of the past eon.
Christianity will either adapt or perish. Going against natural law by force and coercion cannot endure nor is representative of truth. . Not, that their is not great truth in the gospels but not infallibility.
But, a Jesus who was not married did not experience the full human experience which makes Paul a liar. Something “inspired” is without error. Further, one of the gospels says it is just a best recollection and not inspired. So, which is it. It can’t be both ways. Or Can It?
A unmarried Jesus isn’t worthy of the title Guru or Rabbi. He did not understand the human condition if not married or a father. There is no rational or logical evidence to the “inspired” argument.
Though I don’t totally disagree either. Often, in conundrums are great gems of truth for those willing to challenge their preconceived views and seek the truth and not accept a harmful mass delusion.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Jesus, you people are so caught up in this jesus shit. Who really gives a fuck? Oh, wait a minute I don’t want to upset Andrew( if you don’t like this blog, who the fuck is forcing you to read it? click the red button and find another blog, so who’s stupid now?), I want to hear about ALIENS, UFOs.
Howie, where are you? Want you please post something for your true fans to digest?
Nathan
September 19th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Andrew, Michelle has a very loyal fan group. Sorry if you don’t find this to your taste. I hope your next blog will be better.
Oh, and the next time you look up, be more attentive.
Rose
September 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Its been 24 hours and Mitt hasnt fumbled yet today. Going forward he is going to take one day at a time.
Wait…going forward? That sounds so…democratic…so 47% ers like.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
The great Mark Twain famously referred to the book of Mormon as “chloroform in print.”
In an attempt to heal, modern pharmacy has given us “Ritalin” a drug prescribed to those experiencing difficulty focusing, controlling actions, and remaining still or quiet.
In an attempt to steal, the Republican’s have given us Romney–ritalin in flesh.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
I saw a clip showing Romney’s mother. It was 1962 and George Romney was campaigning for becoming the governor of Michigan.
Here’s an excerpt:
LENORE ROMNEY: “You know we’ve only owned our home for the last four years. He was a refugee from Mexico. He was on relief, welfare relief for the first years of his life. But this great country gave him opportunities.”
“The family was poor. He said they lived for a year on nothing but potatoes. He’s known what it is to have to work for every dime he’s had since he was 12.”
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Does Romney think of his dad as a moocher, as he seems to regard the 47% he so cavalierly demeaned?
September 19th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Just who is included in Mitt’s deadbeat category?
Millionaires and billionaires with good tax lawyers. Politicians voluntarily pay some tax so they won’t look like sponges.
People who pay a heavy tax burden, just not income taxes.
Retired people living off pensions they paid into over 45 years.
Firemen injured on 9/11 living on disability pensions.
People scraping to start a small business that is still just breaking even.
People who were born disabled or mentally challenged.
Somebody in hospital with cancer after paying into health insurance for a lifetime.
Somebody laid off suddenly after 30 years at the same job.
A women whose boyfriend blinded her by throwing concentrated acid in her face.
A child abandoned by its parents.
∇ Mitt seems to think Obama’s campaign is based around tax cuts for the rich. He is confused. That is what Republicans want to do, pretending it will create jobs, even though it never has.
Mitt’s real problem is that nobody trusts him. He slings BS, and he changes his mind more often than his socks. Nobody has any idea what he would be like in the White house. He is already making his excuses for why he will lose.
A president should not give up that easily.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Kenny, I saw that too, on Jon Stewart. As Stewart quipped, even George Romney could not vote for Mitt Romney, since he, too, was a moocher! I think we’ll be seeing a lot more of that clip!!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Mr. Romniac, do tell: How many Mormon families with boatloads of kids are on assistance?
I heard that was a cottage industry in Utah.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
No, it’s not my fault nor my parents for not having a whole lot of money. Despite that, I work hard every working day, I pay my taxes, I am not your “victim”, but a productive citizen of this country just like a lot of us.
And you want to dismiss us. You are truly out of touch. You may be able to run your private equity company with one goal. That’s to profit at any expense.
To run a country of this magnitude, you can’t and for the life of you will not be able to. You have proven your worth and and unlike your bank accounts in other countries, is not worth the parchment you have written on.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Romney is the epitome of “businessmen could run the government better” But the fact is they can’t because no matter what anyone thinks—–it’s actually not a business it’s the government.
Regardless of what those pro business folks would like to believe.
Some differences:
We elect officials hopefully to do some of our bidding, then again they may not depending on what their party decides. Then the lobbyists walking in laying money on the table and “helping direct you” to the answer they would like. Then you have the peer pressure. Working across the aisle (which used to work, but appears not to now)
You have to agree to a budget that has ammendments, additions, pork (including your own pork, come on, be honest) Then your directors (Senate Majority or Minority Speaker, President) may have an entirely different view based on his/her outside pressures.
Mitt views government as a simple business, and a laying on of hands by the top dog will solve all problems—it won’t, never has/ never will. While some of the glad handing and schmoozing may go on it’s not the same, you don’t have a few private guys running the show. buying and selling.
We need a politician/statesman. Mitt Romney is not.
Don’t believe it? Look at his campaign—re-boot, re-introduction, stumble after stumble, even his own party does not care for him much.
Think he make the cut as President? Uh–No!
September 19th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
The GOP pigeon holed Americans into those they consider good from those they strangely consider dependants on the government. Changing the playing field in this election from Obama to everyone’s elderly mama’s and papa’s.
Apparently the new GOP ideal of patriotic duty is defined as actively pursuing policies allowing the dismantling of the nation until Grover Norquist will actually be able to drown the United States in his bathtub.
Despite previous assurances made to republican voters the reality exposed behind closed doors is the true vision of Social Security and Medicared: ” … they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it….”
September 19th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Michelle, police his damn blog. At least give us republicans equal time. All Romney did was say what needs to be said. We can’t afford to continue the free ride for these lazy bastards.
Jack
September 19th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Ryan said he’s going to quit “lying” because its the easiest thing to do….He knows because he’s done it thousands of times.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Jack don’t get mad at us. You Republicans could’ve come up with a better candidate. This guy is an idiot.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Mitt, how about showing us your taxes. We’d like to see if you are one of the 47% that pays no taxes.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Dems. we’ve got food stamps,section 8,welfare. Repubs. let’s make it easier for you to get a job or start a business.
September 19th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Romney defends his 12% effective tax rate by saying he paid what was legally necessary, so when 47% of the population pay 0 on their federal taxes, because that is what is legally necessary, how are they any different?
I understand the policy stance that poor people should pay more ( i dont agree with it), but that is not what he said. He said those people dont take care of their lives.
Should they have written the govt a check? If after Romney took all his deductions and he owed zero, would he not then know how to take care of his life? This man is full of hate and hipocrisy
September 19th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
How EXACTLY do we know that Romney paid his income taxes every year for the past decade? My very victimized and lazy 47% enquiring mind would love to know.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
1. People who do not pay income tax are moochers.
2. Corporations are people.
3. About half of the corporations do not pay any corporate income tax.
Conclusion: About half of the corporations are moochers.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Could Mitt be one of the 47%. It sure seems like it. It is time to release your tax statements Mitt.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Dems “What can we do to help Americans?” GOP what can we do to help ourselves.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
The corporate tax rate is 36%. GE 0 taxes, Wells Fargo 0 taxes, Boeing 0 taxes, Fed Ex 1% and every one of these companies get millions even billions in tax rebates every year. Then people wonder why the government has to borrow from China to run the government
September 19th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
My friends and I watched both videos in You Tube channel pantomime1000.
The Carter boy who did it is worthy of his Nobel Prize laureate grandfather.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Don’t get too cocky Dems. The New York Times just exposed a disgusting Republican voter-suppression organization that is masquerading as an “anti voter fraud” outfit.
Their unbelievable tactics include falsely reporting low-income and minority voters as fraudulent, then forcing them to attend court hearings or provide paperwork just to win back their voting rights.
President Obama’s slight polling lead will mean nothing if thousands of Democrats are turned away on Election Day.
September 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
GOOD MORNING FROM DAILY EVENTS!
Our colleague at RedState, Erick Erickson, leads off the coverage today with a column about Romney’s fundraiser comments. Meanwhile, David Harsanyi has a blog post about comments from 1998 in which President Obama says that he supports redistribution of wealth. We all know he said to Joe the Plumber and didn’t back down from that. But, no one cares, because the mainstream media is in the bag for President Obama.
Also, we have our special focus issue live today: 7 ways to fire up an energy recovery. We look at 7 energy sectors and how American innovation and ingenuity, not government, can turn us in to an energy juggernaut.
Have a great Wednesday,
– Adam Tragone, Managing Editor
September 19th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I am a woman….I will never get prostate cancer yet my insurance covers treatment for men who get prostate cancer.
Why should I pay for that? It’s a ridiculous argument. It’s cheaper to pay for birth control pills than to cover a nine month pregnancy and delivery that costs thousands. Given a choice insurance companies would rather cover the cheaper choice…the pill.
However…the truth that never gets mentioned because it doesn’t fit in with the Conservatists ripping apart of Sandra Fluke scenario is this….Sandra Fluke was NOT LOOKING FOR BIRTH CONTROL. Her testimony had nothing to do with Birth Control.
The pill treats other conditions not just contraception. Her testimony was about a friend who had fibroid tumors and could not afford the pill that also helps control the tumors, shrink them.
Her testimony had nothing to do with BIRTH CONTROL OR ANYONE’S SEX LIFE. Her friend is a Lesbian who didn’t need birth control. The truth about her testimony never comes up but the fiction started by Rush Limbaugh never dies. UNBELIEVABLE.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Fox News. Owned by an Australian with a Red Chinese wife, funded by a Saudi. Playing to the fears and prejudices of the white lower classes to further their own agenda and that of multinationals corporations. Laughing all the way to the bank.
September 19th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I think a little redistribution is in order.
“Forbes launched its definitive ranking of the nation’s superrich in 1982. Back then the price of admission into this most exclusive of clubs was a mere $75 million of net worth.
Even after adjusting for inflation, this year’s entry fee ($1.1 billion) is roughly ten times what it was thirty years ago. There were just 13 billionaires at the time and the total worth of the 400 club was a mere $93 billion.
Today the combined net worth of the 400 richest Americans is $1.7 trillion, up from $1.5 trillion a year ago.
The average net worth of a Forbes 400 member is a staggering $4.2 billion, up from $3.8 billion, and the highest in at least a decade, as two-thirds of the individuals added to their fortunes in the past year. “
September 19th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I need some loving!!!!!!!!!!
September 19th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
My question to the republicans is?
But will you vote for him anyway? If the answer is yes then you are part of the problem with the republican party and why it will never come back as a legitimate political entity.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Romney’s problem isn’t the media at all. Rather it is his insensitivity, lack of experience with people outside his circle, and lack of empathy. Somebody suggested he might have one of those syndromes that make it hard for him to show connections with others.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Mitt’s biggest problem is his own lack of character. Do you, Republicans, know where Mitt really stands on any issue?
He has flip-floped so much for no discernable reason other than political expediency that it seems he is a man of pure ambition without principle, without conviction, and apparently now without compassion.
Politics aside, such a person is unfit for the presidency.
It is amazing that Romney still retains the support he has. That doesn’t speak well for Republicans. He appears, to treat politics as a sport and the only goal is to win.
Republicans and Democrats have different philosophies and approaches, but I would expect they all share the love for the country and the respect for our institutions.
Supporting Romney now is akin to supporting John Edwards after his campaign trail infidelity had been revealed.
Do you want an unscrupulous character sitting in the Oval Office who has the responsibility to send our young men and women to wars knowing some of whom will not return?
No, Republicans. It’s not just about “Anybody but Obama. It is not a race thing.
We are talking about electing the man who will represent the country, who will inevitably have to make some very very tough decisions affecting the life and perhaps death of many of us.
Do you want a hollow character like Romney to be that man just because he is the white candidate?
September 19th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
I just hate listening to people talking about how great Reagan was for the economy and how his approach validated conservative economic principles.
Reagan actually started the policies that began widening the wealth gap in this country, reducing the opportunity for upward mobility, and creating the faulty economic idea that cutting taxes doesn’t increase deficits and thereby starting to build the national debt from which we still need to dig ourselves out.
I am tired of this “saint” Reagan perspective on the right when he was the originator of so much of what is still wrong with our economy.
September 19th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
How could any woman with a thought in her head vote for him? He talks so negatively about most of the citizens of these United States, and now uses derogatory language to describe women with ideas of their own. Maybe those sharp-tongued women will break the bubble Romney has lived in his entire life!
September 19th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
The controversy surrounding Mitt Romney’s inflammatory attack on nearly half of Americans at closed-door fundraiser with millionaire donors shows no signs of abating.
In fact, it only appears to be growing. Even Romney’s own running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), criticized Romney during a television appearance last night.
The controversy made the front pages of at least 41 swing state newspapers this morning. Editorial boards across the country, including the New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, Baltimore Sun, Mercury News, Nashua Telegraph, Concord Monitor, Charlotte Observer, Raleigh News & Observer, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Toledo Blade, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Denver Post, Boulder Daily Camera, Kansas City Star, Seattle Times, Roanoke Times, Philadelphia Daily News, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, and Richmond Times-Dispatch all condemned Romney in today’s paper.
And now — and even worse for Romney, his fellow Republicans are distancing themselves from him and even, in some cases, outright attacking Romney for his comments.
September 19th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
My Little Red Corvette, I’m dying to tailgate you. But if you are not in the mood, I will be satisfied having the privilege to ogle your fine exquisite chassis.
Your presence is most sincerely desired.
September 20th, 2012 at 7:32 am
I was visiting some friends who were staying at a hotel in Waikiki awhile back. We are all surfers and I went surfing early in the AM…my two visiting friends were to lazy to get up and go surfing so I went by myself.
I came back around noon and then they decided to go surfing. So, I took a shower and was drying off when I noticed an older woman, on vacation no doubt with her husband, watching me from the hotel across the street, about three floors higher than the hotel room I was in.
She was making it obvious that she could see me and wasn’t doing anything to NOT watch me…like moving inside or looking the other way…so I just kept on drying off in front of her.
So, with her watching me…naked…naturally, I was aroused and it was obvious to her that I was aroused (hello) and so…I started to touch myself while she was watching…to see what she would do.
Well, to my surprise she kept watching and that turned me on even more and it wasn’t long before I was in a full on masturbation session with a more than willing participant watching from across the street.
This went on for some time, as I was thoroughly enjoying this rather unusual situation. I got some body lotion from the hotel bathroom and made myself comfortable on one of the beds…and continued to perform for her…I felt as if she wanted me to perform for her…I don’t know…but I was excited and didn’t care.
She could tell when I “finished”…lol…I could see the smile on her face…and it was definitely one of my best sessions, as far as being “by yourself” goes.
I guess this fits the definition of SAFE SEX, eh? Do you consider what she did as “cheating” on her husband?