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Soul Speak: What Happens To It After We Die?

Posted by Michelle Moquin on November 26th, 2012

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Good morning!

Well, I guess yesterday’s post really excited everyone. The comments were just rollin’ in. :) So, maybe today’s will be a little bit sexier, and if that doesn’t get you going, then I guess it is one of those days. Those of you who have been around for at least a few years will get my drift. :)

So..wha’at’s up? 

I’m not sure if this is a sexy subject but it caught my eye this morning. I am a fan of “Through The Wormhole“, and just read about a recent show that speaks of the soul…what happens to it after we die?

Like I said before, if you’ve been here for at least a few years, then you’ve read comments from the aliens as well as the Earthling Girlz – remember when those girlz used to blog in? It seems after their earth bodies were no longer, their essence…their soul, carried on quite well in another form. Believe it?

This is what scientists have to say about the soul:

Scientists Discuss What Happens To The ‘Soul’ After Death (VIDEO)

What happens when human beings die? Is there a final destination for the soul? These were the questions discussed among four scientists on a video that recently aired on “Through the Wormhole” hosted by Morgan Freeman on the Sciencechannel.

A number of scientists who have studied consciousness and near-death experiences extensively believe they are close to solving the puzzle, but they vehemently disagree with each other about the solution.

Christof Koch, the Chief Scientific Officer of the Allen Institute of Brain Science and Lois and Victor Troendle Professor of Cognitive and Behavioral Biology at California Institute of Technology, argued that the soul dies and everything is lost when human beings lose consciousness. “You lose everything. The world does not exist anymore for you. Your friends don’t exist anymore. You don’t exist. Everything is lost,” he said.

Bruce Greyson, Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, challenged Koch’s view of consciousness. He said that, “if you take these near death experiences at face value, then they suggest that the mind or the consciousness seems to function without the physical body.”

Stuart Hameroff, who proposed the highly controversial Orch-OR (orchestrated objective reduction) theory of consciousness in 1996 along with Roger Penrose, told the Science channel, “I think the quantum approach to consciousness can, in principle, explain why we’re here and what our purpose is, and also the possibility of life after death, reincarnation and persistence of consciousness after our bodies give up.”

Finally, Eben Alexander who wrote the widely circulated and criticized cover story forNewsweek, ‘Proof of Heaven‘, said, “I have great belief and knowledge that there is a wonderful existence for our souls outside of this earthly realm and that is our true reality, and we all find that out when we live this earth.”

Whose argument do you find more compelling? Do you believe that human beings have souls? If so, what happens to the soul when a human being dies? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

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45 Responses to “Soul Speak: What Happens To It After We Die?”

  1. Henrietta Says:

    Michelle, I was just about to post on yesterday’s blog today when I noticed that today’s was up. I wanted to comment on the judgeship thing yesterday but I couldn’t get a post to accept.

    I wanted to bring attention to a concern of mind: Diversity on the Bench.

    It seems that most of the time the bench is filled with men, mostly white men at that. I was very happy to learn that the NCAACP had appointed a woman, Sherrilynn Ifill, to head their Legal Defense and Education Fund(LDF).

    Unless more women are on the benches we women will continue to get the short end of the stick when it comes to justice.

    Henrietta

  2. Health Info Says:

    The Pill You Can’t Take—But Can’t Stop Taking Either

    The FDA was recently alarmed when it received dozens of reports of adverse events—including death!—involving people who used a certain product marketed as a dietary supplement that claims to be “natural” and to ease muscle pain, arthritis, osteoporosis and other related conditions.

    It turns out that there are ingredients in these pills that aren’t listed on the label—what’s worse, they aren’t natural. They’re prescription drugs.

    You would think that anyone taking the supplement could just stop popping the pills and they’d be OK. But hang on—the news takes yet another dangerous turn. Quitting the supplement cold turkey can also cause serious—even fatal—health problems.

    To find out how anyone in this situation is supposed to deal with such a terrifying catch-22, I called Elizabeth Miller, PharmD, acting director of the FDA’s Division of Non-Prescription Drugs and Health Fraud.

    DANGEROUS HIDDEN INGREDIENTS

    The “supplements” in question are called Reumofan Plus and Reumofan Plus Premium, which people are taking because the pills promise to help relieve muscle and joint pain, among other things.

    They’re pills that are manufactured in Mexico by a company called Riger Naturals and are sold on the Internet (one site, for example, sells 30 pills—a two-week supply—for $28) as well as at some retail stores and less traditional outlets, such as ethnic markets and flea markets.

    An FDA lab analysis found that the pills contain three prescription pharmaceutical ingredients that aren’t listed on the labels, including…
    Diclofenac sodium, a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug used for pain relief.

    It can interact with other medications, potentially leading to a higher risk for heart attack, stroke and gastrointestinal problems such as ulcers and internal bleeding.

    Methocarbamol, a muscle relaxant that can cause sedation, dizziness and low blood pressure. Taking this drug can make it hard to safely drive or operate machinery.

    Dexamethasone, a corticosteroid drug that acts as an anti-inflammatory and suppresses the immune system. This ingredient can actually suppress the adrenal glands—which regulate several hormones and critical bodily functions—and needs to be tapered off gradually rather than immediately discontinued.

    Abrupt withdrawal may not give the glands enough time to resume functioning normally, which can cause complications that are sometimes life-threatening, Dr. Miller said, such as dangerously low blood pressure, dangerously low blood sugar and, in extreme cases, shock.

    Differing amounts of these hidden ingredients were found in varying lots of the supplements. The adverse reports that the FDA received included two deaths, one stroke and many more serious side effects that required medical attention, such as liver problems, sudden worsening of glucose control, swelling and leg cramps. I asked Dr.

    Miller whether these events took place within hours, days, weeks or months after consumers had started to take the pills or whether they had occurred shortly after consumers had stopped taking the pills, but she told me that it’s unknown.

    The FDA can’t prove that the supplements are responsible for the side effects, but many of the adverse events correlate with those expected from the hidden drug ingredients, and it is unusual for the FDA to receive that many serious reports regarding a supplement, said Dr. Miller.

    And there’s no question that these dangerous drugs don’t belong in an over-the-counter “supplement.”

    PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THE PILLS
    The FDA has issued an alert that warns consumers about Reumofan products and is working with authorities in both Mexico and the US to get the pills off the market.

    But the fact is, Reumofan is still out there. Though the single US distributor identified to date by the FDA (Samantha Lynn Inc.) has voluntarily recalled all the lots of the products that it distributed, those lots are only a fraction of the total number of lots on the market—so the products are still very easy to find. And they may already be in your medicine cabinet or that of a loved one.

    The bottom line: Don’t start taking Reumofan.

    And if you’re already taking it, don’t stop cold turkey. Dr. Miller’s suggestion is to immediately schedule an appointment with your doctor, during which he or she can assess your individual health risks and decide how to safely taper your intake and get you off of these horridly dangerous pills.

    Source: Elizabeth Miller, PharmD, acting director, Division of Non-Prescription Drugs and Health Fraud, US Food and Drug Administration, Silver Spring, Maryland.

  3. Scott Says:

    I’ve always believed (felt) that our soul is made of energy. Energy that cannot be destroyed. It leaves this dimension into another – or many, when the body dies.

    Everything is energy and has it’s own rate of vibration. From rocks to humans. I’ve always referred to God as energy. I do not believe in one supreme being, but I do believe we are all God.

  4. Karen Says:

    Using MRIs researchers are beginning to understand how memories are formed and maintained in groups of neurons that behave chemically to retain the strength of their connections. As such, this process is physical.

    If you destroy the ability to maintain this delicate environment – death being an extreme example – neurons no longer function.

    Near death is an interim stage where most people physically maintain the chemical state that allows the brain to recover. Wait long enough without oxygen and it becomes irreversible.

  5. Susi Says:

    I subscribe to the Bhuddist theory. Which I understand as follows. There are a finite number of souls. The body may die, but the soul moves to another level of existence to await rebirth. This is reincarnation.

    That is why it’s important to always live your best life now. Souls that have been evil — unkind, uncaring, selfish, murderous, etc — have to wait a long time for rebirth. Those that die too soon because of the acts of others — war, murder, etc — get to come back sooner rather than later.

    The point (as I understand it and I’m open to enlightenment on all of this) is to live a life of consciousness. Once you’ve learned all the lessons you’re suppose to learn through birth and reincarnation, your soul will pass to the ultimate level — and rebirth will no longer be necessary.

    Call that level whatever you want. It helps me make sense of the world today. Take care — be well…

  6. Chuck Says:

    It is a good thing that most people still ponder what comes after the death of the flesh. If we had hard proof that there was life after death then I bet a very large percentage of humans would choose to end their life here to go to another place.

    So many thin skinned whiners that want everything their way.. I had something happen to me at age 7 that gave me all the proof I need to know about living and death.. So now I have learned to enjoy life now.. We are nothing but a book of memories and choices. Perfect really..

  7. Palmer Says:

    Everyone has an opinion, but what consciousness is remains a mystery.

    I’m thinking about my ninth grade science teacher saying, “energy doesn’t die, it transforms”.

    Is consciousness energy?

    I like to think so.

  8. Trudy Says:

    Why do do many people depend on scientist to explain everything? Are they modern day high priests?

  9. Norman Says:

    Susi, that is definitely your version of “Buddhist theory.” There is no such thing as a “finite” number of souls. It that were true, how many souls are there and how many people can be born on our planet before we run out of souls. Except for the end goal, you have a very poor understanding of how Karma works too.

  10. Ivy Says:

    Souls are for kids?

  11. King Says:

    The better question is. Why do people depend on priests to explain everything?

  12. Jack Says:

    “if you take these near death experiences at face value…”
    ROTFLMAO!!!

    I’ve got a used car to sell this guy.

  13. Morton Says:

    Michelle, That is just silly.
    EVERYONE knows that the magical sky-king teaches your soul how to dance around on top of the clouds and play the lyre… or maybe it’s the lute.

  14. Bob Says:

    Michelle, why not ask, what happens to the music on a CD when you destroy the disc? It would be just as astute.

  15. Clarence Says:

    Near death isn’t death…. Show me researches of a mind without a brain and you can call it science. Otherwise it is all fiction and fantasy.

  16. Brook Says:

    My mom almost died years ago when I was a kid. I asked her what she experienced and she said it is a wonderful sense of peace and calmness.

    She could tell us exactly what the doctors were saying to her and she said it also felt as if she was coming apart and that something was pulling her away.

    When I was a kid that scared the snot out of me but now when I think back on it and talk to her now it seems that if I were leaving this level of existence that would seem like a pretty cool thing to have happen.

    Peace, calmness and something pulling me away. Hopefully to a better place where my maker and loved ones are waiting for me.

  17. Geld Says:

    1. Matter and energy can not be created or destroyed.

    2. Everything is made of matter and energy, including human consciousness.

    Therefore human consciousness can not be created or destroyed. What ever energy pattern constitutes our consciousness can not be truly destroyed but only transformed. Divided or even merged, possibly.

    For consciousness to continue it doesn’t necessarily follow that it must remain indivisible and whole. Simply, the brain rots, the cells rot, so the consciousness divides itself amongst the cells and then as the cells die amongst the molecular structures.

    This consciousness would at that point be extremely simplified, or perhaps even dormant feeling and experiencing nothing but once the energy/matter pattern gets into a form that is capable of consciousness that’s still you, though you may not remember a thing.

  18. Qiana Says:

    Bob, Comparing a complex being to a cd made from sand?

  19. Bob Says:

    Qiana, they are not made of glass, but of plastic. Still, CDs are also quite complex. The musics exists only as long at the form exists.

    When the CD is destroyed, the music goes away but the essential components of the disc remain.

  20. Harry Says:

    It becomes newly discovered, never released music by John Lennon.

  21. Johnny Says:

    King, why do you think I depend on a priest to explain anything? I have a mind of my own.

  22. Eric Says:

    Harry, I agree. 27 minutes of baby Sean playing with the mic while John strums his guitar. Gotta have it.

  23. King Says:

    Johnny, do you think every time anyone talks about an unspecified person that he’s referring to you?

  24. Leroy Says:

    Trudy;

    So you think a High Priest and a Scientist are the same?

  25. Rhi Says:

    Leroy, they serve some of the same functions, but they are not the same. The big difference is that a scientist reformulates his theories on the basis of new information. A priest cannot.

  26. Leroy Says:

    What if the scientific theory cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt, should it be viewed as fact?

  27. Ito Says:

    Many scientific theories have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The rest are awaiting further testing.

  28. Health Info Says:

    Become Heart Attack Proof—Here Are the Tests and Other Strategies You Really Need…

    There are few things as reassuring as hearing your doctor say that your cholesterol levels are “normal.” But don’t assume that these test results mean you have dodged the heart attack “bullet.”

    Surprising fact: About half of all heart attacks occur in people with normal LDL “bad” cholesterol levels. Other important facts you should know about testing to increase your odds of being heart attack proof…

    DON’T SETTLE FOR NORMAL

    Most doctors rely heavily upon the results of their patients’ basic cholesterol tests to determine their heart attack risk. Total and LDL cholesterol—both measured by routine blood tests—are useful indicators of heart attack risk.

    The problem is that the desirable levels recommended by the National Cholesterol Education Program are not the optimal levels that can protect you from having a heart attack.

    For example, the optimal total cholesterol level is less than 150 mg/dL (rather than the standard recommendation of less than 200 mg/dL).
    Dr. William Castelli of the landmark Framingham Heart Study noted that none of the participants with a total cholesterol level of less than 150 mg/dL had suffered a heart attack.

    In addition, the desirable LDL cholesterol is listed as less than 100 mg/dL, yet clinical studies have demonstrated that the optimal level should be less than 70 mg/dL.

    Why wait until you have already suffered a heart attack to strive for the optimal cholesterol levels?

    My approach:
    All adults should aim for optimal levels of total cholesterol and LDL cholesterol by following a healthy lifestyle. If you are not able to achieve optimal levels with lifestyle changes alone, then your doctor should decide whether to add cholesterol-lowering medication based on your risk factors for heart disease. Remember, medications are never a substitute for a healthy lifestyle.

    OTHER TESTS YOU SHOULD HAVE

    Newer, expanded tests can give clues beyond those provided by the basic cholesterol results discussed earlier. You may have to ask your doctor for these tests, but they are well worth it. Important blood tests for all adults to consider…

    LDL-P.
    The “P” stands for “particle.” It measures the number of LDL particles that carry cholesterol. It’s a more effective indicator of cardiovascular risk than LDL cholesterol alone because it shows how likely you are to develop atherosclerosis.

    Elevated LDL-P means that you are at risk of having a heart attack even if your LDL cholesterol is normal.

    My approach:
    Patients should strive for an optimal LDL-P level of less than 700 nmol/L.

    Apo-B.
    This test measures a protein known as Apolipoprotein-B (Apo-B). It appears on the surface of all cholesterol particles that can enter the artery walls and potentially lead to atherosclerosis.

    My approach:
    Patients should aim for an optimal level of less than 60 mg/dL. Depending upon the profiles offered by the laboratory that is being used, it’s appropriate to measure particle number with LDL-P and/or Apo-B to get an accurate assessment of heart attack risk.

    CRP.
    Studies show that elevated C-reactive protein (CRP), which serves as a marker for inflammation, indicates an increased risk for heart disease and stroke. In some cases, a patient can have a normal cholesterol level but an elevated CRP reading.

    My approach:
    Ask for a high-sensitivity CRP (hs-CRP) test (it’s more accurate for vascular inflammation than standard CRP tests). Patients should strive for an hs-CRP level of less than 2 mg/L.

    Vitamin D.
    Most people associate vitamin D with bone health—it plays a key role in promoting the absorption of bone-building calcium. But that’s not all vitamin D does.

    Preliminary research shows that correcting a vitamin D deficiency (through foods, such as salmon and vitamin D–fortified cereal, and/or supplements) can significantly lower heart disease risk. My approach: Ask your doctor to test your vitamin D level. An optimal level is greater than 30 ng/ml.

    Omega-3 index.
    This blood test measures the percentage of healthful omega-3 fat in the membranes of your red blood cells. Low levels of omega-3 are linked to an increased risk for heart attack and sudden cardiac death.

    My approach:
    Patients should aim for an omega-3 level of greater than 8%.

    WHAT TO DO NEXT

    If one or more results from these tests are not optimal, your doctor may choose from these treatments…*

    Go Mediterranean.
    Better eating habits (including a Mediterranean diet that consists of plenty of seafood, a minimum of red meat and an abundance of fruits, vegetables, legumes) is the first step.

    Although there are various diets that claim to reduce heart attack risk, the preponderance of evidence confirms that the Mediterranean approach does so most effectively. It improves cholesterol levels, reduces inflammation and lowers blood sugar levels.

    Get off the couch!
    There is no way around it. Exercise is essential to becoming heart attack proof. It not only lowers blood pressure, heart rate and body weight, but it also helps control lipid levels, such as total and LDL cholesterol, and reduce inflammation and blood sugar levels.

    My approach:
    Walk 30 to 45 minutes daily. To make sure that you stay on track, buy a pedometer and strive for 10,000 steps each day. Believe it or not, most people walk less than 3,000 steps per day.

    Consider taking a statin.
    These cholesterol-lowering drugs, which include atorvastatin (Lipitor), simvastatin (Zocor) and rosuvastatin (Crestor), can be used if lifestyle measures don’t sufficiently improve total and LDL cholesterol.

    It’s not well-known, but statins also can improve LDL-P, Apo-B and CRP levels.

    Get more omega-3s. Foods that are rich in omega-3s (such as salmon and sardines) and supplements, including fish oil, boost omega-3 levels, reduce the inflammation marker CRP and lower triglyceride levels.

    DON’T MISS THESE RISK FACTORS FOR HEART ATTACK

    When determining one’s odds of having a heart attack, two factors often are overlooked…

    Periodontal disease.
    Many doctors have been slow to recognize how poor dental hygiene can increase a person’s heart attack risk.

    Here’s what happens: If you don’t brush and floss regularly, small particles of food get trapped between your teeth and gums, which promotes the buildup of plaque as well as inflammation and infection.

    Periodontal disease, in turn, causes a generalized inflammatory response that can increase heart attack risk.

    In fact, a recent seven-year study of more than 100,000 people with no history of heart attack or stroke showed that those who had their teeth cleaned by a dentist or hygienist at least twice a year over a two-year period had a 24% lower risk for heart attack compared with people who did not go to the dentist or went only once in a two- year period.

    My approach:
    Brush and floss regularly…and see your dentist at least every six months.

    Sleep apnea.
    Recent research shows that this nighttime breathing disorder increases a person’s risk for heart attack and stroke.

    What’s the connection?
    With sleep apnea, the upper airway narrows or collapses during sleep, often disrupting sleep hundreds of times each night. This sleep disturbance decreases oxygen saturation in the bloodstream. Sleep apnea also raises adrenaline and inflammation—both of which increase risk for heart attack.

    My approach:
    Patients who have signs or symptoms of sleep apnea—such as snoring, periods of breathing cessation during sleep, daytime fatigue and/or morning headaches—should see a doctor. There is some evidence that treating sleep apnea can lower heart attack risk.

    *Always discuss all heart disease prevention recommendations with your personal treating physician.

    Source: Michael Ozner, MD, medical director of the Center for Wellness & Prevention at Baptist Health South Florida in Miami and a past chairman of the American Heart Association of Miami.

    He is the author of four books, including his most recent, Heart Attack Proof: A Six-Week Cardiac Makeover for a Lifetime of Optimal Health (BenBella). http://www.DrOzner.com

  29. Leroy Says:

    Ito, I am aware of that .Some have also been disproved .Should we accept unproven theories as fact?

  30. Qiana Says:

    Bob, Anyone can learn to make CDs .Try make a human,it must be easy then since we can make complex CDs ..LOL

  31. Bob Says:

    So you chose to LOL instead of dealing with my point?

    Whatever.

  32. Qiana Says:

    Bob, seriously, did you really expect anyone to take your comment about comparing a CD to a human being seriously?

    CDs and Humans are not comparable species. If you think your question was so heavy, let me pose a similar one. What happens to a radio broadcast after you have listened to it?

    Get my point and humor?

    Qiana

  33. Vadoma Says:

    I am but a lowly Romani, but it seems to me according to folks who study the subject extensively the broadcasting doesn’t end after our devices have interpreted it. It keeps going for about 200 light years into space ..

    I don’t think we have learnt all that is need to be. I am not smug as the men, a hundred years ago, who thought the patent office should close “because all that needs to be invented has been”

  34. Vadoma Says:

    I am but a lowly Romani, but it seems to me according to folks who study the subject extensively the broadcasting doesn’t end after our devices have interpreted it. It keeps going for about 200 light years into space ..

    I don’t think we have learnt all that is need to be. I am not smug as the men, a hundred years ago, who thought the patent office should close “because all that needs to be invented has been”

  35. Ivan Says:

    Actually, for men it is both fun and easy to make a human. It is a bit more of a process for women.

  36. Elian Says:

    A lot easier than making a CD.

  37. Ferguson Says:

    Geld, remind me never to take a neuro-science class from you…

  38. Geld Says:

    Ferguson, instead of chastising my opinion could you explain to me why I’m wrong. I would like to know, because I like to be right, literally more so than metaphorically(I like being right in terms of believing correctly not in terms of winning arguments). Or do you just “feel” like my idea doesn’t sound right?

  39. Webber Says:

    Oh, me. What course section was that again?

  40. Jonny Says:

    you are reaching pretty hard for something that isn’t there.

  41. Lottie Says:

    Clarence #15, Exactly!

  42. Patty Says:

    Today is another made up day by the greedy 1% to get us to spend money. I ignored Black Friday. I’m ignoring Cyber Monday. I will ignore the holidays.

    Do I feel left out? You betcha… and loving every minute.

  43. Health Info Says:

    Scrumptious Winter Soups for People Who Hate Beans

    Posted by Marjory Abrams on Nov. 16, 2012 in Food
    It all started one Saturday this summer, when we lunched at the home of friends. Maria served a delicious Potato-Leek Soup that my family fell in love with.

    The next day, The New York Times Magazine featured several summer soup recipes from Mark Bittman (one of my favorite cookbook authors), including one for potato-leek. I made it that night.

    The recipe could not be easier: Saute 3 chopped leeks in a small amount of butter… add 3 cubed potatoes (I used leftover baked potatoes)… 4 cups stock… boil… simmer until potatoes are soft… puree with an immersion blender. Done in less than half an hour, start to finish.

    Always one to enhance the health of any recipe, I sauteed in olive oil rather than butter and kept the skin on the potatoes (the recipe called to remove them). The soup was delicious, and gone in a flash.

    The next time I prepared this soup, I used two sweet potatoes and one white potato (again keeping the skins), since sweet potatoes are healthier than white.

    My children don’t like sweet potatoes, so I didn’t tell them until after they tasted it. Still delicious — and, surprisingly, you could neither see nor taste the sweet potato.

    Unfortunately, I had to promised not to use sweet potatoes again (me and my big mouth!), but felt determined to find a way to pack more nutrition into this recipe.

    The next time, I went back to white potatoes, and added a well-rinsed can of white beans. Again, delicious. Again, you couldn’t taste the difference – and now the soup had protein! I’ve tried for years to like beans, but always had a hard time with their mealy texture.

    The next time, leeks, beans, no potatoes. As delicious as the first time, no white carbs. Bingo!

    Now I add beans to all of my vegetarian soups, and I never need to add cream. If I want identifiable vegetables rather than a smooth puree, I mash only the beans in the food processor before adding to the pot.

    I’m happy because it’s such a healthy source of protein and fiber…you can’t taste it…and it adds a nice thickness to the soup that I find preferable to a runny broth.

    I use white beans in light-colored soups like leek and mushroom — dark beans create a very unappetizing color once pureed in otherwise light soups — and red or black beans in tomato-based soups, since darker beans are generally more healthful.

    My other secret ingredient: Fresh herbs, like rosemary, tarragon, cilantro, basil, oregano andr sage in various combinations. In the summer, I grow these on my deck. In the winter, I use “fresh-frozen” herbs that I stock in the freezer – much tastier than dried.

    One final tip to pump up the nutrients of your soups: Canned pumpkin. Like beans, it takes on the flavors that surround it.

  44. Zen Lill Says:

    Why does the word of a scientist not outweigh a priest? A priest studies the words of good books and ethereally speaks of the soul…scientists study biological and neurological phenomena, amongst other things, it would seem they would likely know more about energy (if you believe that we are energy and souls have ‘energy’).

    #3 Scott, I agree with exception of ‘we are all god’ I think we are all part of a collective consciousness (God, if you will) and therefore we can tap into others energy if we are vibrating in harmony/tone, which is why like peeps are often drawn to each other for ideas, collaboration, discovery, etc…

    Another reason why peeps are often drawn to each other is the reincarnation factor, #5 Suzy, bc of the ‘energy not being destroyed’ (in Scotts comment) and energy does transform, (matter is energy, also with a lot of empty space inside each of those neurons nucleus, another conversation), so it would seem that through reincarnation that we could recur (our recycled energy) without recall, as in Gelds last paragraph.

    and #4 Karen, yes, and transhumanism research is capturing the neuron ‘content’ as we speak and these scientists are working on a triggering mechanism (a way to take the gathered neuron content and attach it to another brain for ‘download’ cyborg style), all very interesting stuff. The question: is soul in those neurons or is it personality ‘spirit’, the short answer: we don’t know and they don’t either, which leads again to Geld’s statement about ‘not remembering’ in his last paragraph.

    …and I cannot figure out why anyone would not want to take a neuro science class from you, Geld, you’re take seemed as close to ‘science’ as possible and I would only thrown in my ethereal woo-woo two that I did above.

    Soul/spirit/essence is a bit like the CD analogy (I liked it, Bob) bc just bc you break my Beatles CD does that mean the music on it that stirred my ‘soul’ is gone? Does that mean the music disappears from existence? Um, no and no would be the correct answers. Energetically we can all hear ‘Something’ right now bc that song/lyrical content has ‘soul’ ; )

    So I will ask this: bc I(you) no longer have physical access to a dead person does that mean that their soul/spirit/essence/energy is gone from me(you)?
    I’ll answer with an emphatic =hell no=

    Luv, Zen Lill

  45. Shetold Says:

    Regarding all the talk of life after death, it’s entertaining. But for most humans, it’s not going to happen. IMHO, some of you seem to be confusing dead energy that replays itself with “soul”.