Flap Your Lips Friday
Posted by Michelle Moquin on April 26th, 2013
Good morning!
From the Huff Po:
Jon Stewart: Fox News Shreds The Constitution, Would Toss Every Amendment Except Second (VIDEO)
For people who claim to love the constitution, Fox News pundits sure seem to be hemorrhaging amendments according to Jon Stewart. On Wednesday night, he took the network to serious task for its emotional and math-challenged reaction to the Boston bombing and the handling of Dzokhar Tsarnaev in the days since his arrest.
In clip after clip, “The Daily Show” host tracked pundits suggesting actions that would disregard the Bill of Rights, including Ann Coulter insisting that Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s wife be arrested for wearing a hijab. “Ann Coulter doesn’t just want a police state,” Jon marveled, “she wants a fashion police state.”
Fortunately, even while ripping the constitution to shreds, there’s one amendment the right will always defend, the second one. But even that’s a slippery slope Jon pointed out: “God help us if the muslims ever decide to form a well-regulated militia.”
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April 27th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Hafa adai.
First List of Unclaimed Tax Refund Checks Is Out – Last Names Beginning With Letters A to F.
http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33681:first-list-of-unclaimed-tax-refund-checks-is-out-last-names-beginning-with-a-to-f-checks-available-monday&catid=45:guam-news&Itemid=156
April 27th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
So it’s ok to throw out the 2nd Amendment for law abiding citizens, but not the 5th Amendment for terrorists?
April 27th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Fox News makes perfect sense. We must give up freedom to preserve freedom.
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”
-Ben Franklin
or a paraphrase
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, OBTAIN neither liberty nor safety”
April 27th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Miranda may be from the 60′s but, re: Self Incrimination (amongst other things) you might want to re-read the Fifth Amendment
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger;
nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
April 27th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
After watching the show, my takeaway was that Stewart argued that throwing the Constitution out the window wasn’t necessary and that successful prosecution was possible while still maintaining the Constitutional rights of a US citizen.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Yes! Finally someone who can actually grasp what someone else is trying to say…
April 27th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Jenni, Who’s throwing out the 2nd Amendment?
Ohh that’s right, no one, but go ahead and try and justify your warped view of reality in which anything that challenges your preconceived notions of the world are rejected.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Yet it’s the Dems who want to take away guns. Funny that POPE STEWART didn’t mention this when discussing taking away constitutional rights!
April 27th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
I’m white but this bull that a blond is the most beautiful woman in the world is true white boy shit, yes I’m a brunette.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
I’m pretty sure they’ll shred the second amendment as well when OTWs exercise those rights.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
I think most gun nuts know that the 80s were the bad old days when republicans supported gun control and the NRA was controlled by fudds and loved compromise. Things started to change after 94 and by 2000 the NRA was its current absolutist self.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
That’s true, Rubi. Right-wingers get all hard for Reagan’s stance on gun rights. They don’t believe me when I tell them about the bills he signed when he was governor of California, or the EOs he signed, or the Hughes amendment, or the letters he sent supporting the 1994 AWB.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
I’d like to start a Muslim second amendment organization just to piss off the righties.
“Take up arms for Allah now!”
April 27th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
The stupidity of the Republican party is mind boggling.
A party AGAINST health care, but FOR guns. The chickenshittery of that is disgusting.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Right wingers perhaps, but not gun rights advocates. We remember what Reagan did to the Black Panthers, we remember the Hughes amendment, we remember his support of the 1994 AWB.
As a pro-gun liberal, I have no qualms taking opportunities to throw Reagan under the proverbial bus.
It is perhaps the most crazy making thing about our Senate – Democrats are seeking to restrict 2A civil liberties, Republicans defending.
Then a week later, fucking Lindsay Graham is throwing the 5th and 6th Amendments under the bus.
Fuck the Senate.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
You need probable cause from a detached and impartial magistrate for a search warrant. The 4th amendment was specifically adopted in response to Britain’s ‘Writs of Assistance.’
These writs were basically a blanket warrant that allowed troops to search anything, essentially without cause. The founders adopted the 4th amendment to require the state to specifically describe the places to be searched and the things to be seized.
It’s a very good amendment that’s slowly been torn apart and undercut by exceptions (e.g. Exigent Circumstances, Open Fields Doctrine, Plain View Doctrine) To allow the type of wiretapping described would be a gross constitutional violation and pretty fuckin un-American.
edit: Probable Cause must be founded on more than ‘mere suspicion.’
April 27th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
Lott is problematic on a number of levels. First of all, his famous research that purports to show that more guns lead to less crime is incredibly shoddy from the standpoint of social science methodology.
So much so, in fact, that back in grad school an econometrics professor of mine taught a class based on Lott’s dataset, which basically amounted to an entire course in how not to do quantitative social science research.”
April 27th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
Godfuckingdammit….
As a gun lover myself, who leans left, and voted for Barry O twice. I’d like to ask that folks like you please just shut the fuck up for a while. Ted Nugent, Wayne LaPierre, and 90% of Fox News… Stop. Fucking. Talking.
I’m a firearm enthusiast. I own more than I need, including a large scary looking AR-15. Just fucking stop. You’re making all gun owners look like we all scream “THE GOVERNMENT IS GONNA TAKE UR GUNS SO WE CAN’T FIGHT THEIR SOCIALIST TAKEOVER HURRR!!!”
Seriously, stop. It’s getting hard to defend our position when all anyone hears is bullshit crazy talk.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
The Second Amendment is the basis for all our freedoms. It’s the amendment that gives us the power to fight crime and terrorism.
If this is true, why even have a Constitution? Why not merely enshrine the 2nd Amendment and then let everything else fall into place.
We won’t need court systems because good guys with guns will stop bad guys with guns. We won’t need freedom of speech protection because verbal and ideological disputes can always be solved by duels, or at the very least the guy with the worse aim will just keep his mouth shut for fear that he won’t be able to defend his opinion against someone else’s Glock.
April 27th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
fighting violence with violence…. what could go wrong?
April 28th, 2013 at 4:21 am
well, nice post, thanks for share