This ‘n That Chitchat
Posted by Michelle Moquin on July 21st, 2016
Good morning – Catching up…
Beth: First of all, wow! Thank you for posting. I don’t care if he’s jewish. Everyone could learn something from this kid. I HOPE his words go far and inspire the youth and the adults. Which Hellooo…It’s amazing the vitriolic attacks posted toward him on youtube. Although sadly, not surprising since he isn’t white, but jeez he’s just a 14-year old kid. Another example of what OTWs have to endure that white privilege doesn’t.
PS: Happy to hear you’re voting for Hillary, albeit, reluctantly. Give the girl a chance. I think you’ll like what she does.
Heath Info: Love my morning green smoothies. This looks like a good one. Thanks.
Women to Watch: Excited about this. Thanks for letting us know.
Becca et al: I love when comedy is added to break up the seriousness of this blog. This by no way diminishes the importance of what is posted here, but a little comic relief is much needed sometimes. Thanks.
Wilma: I agree – love reading the comments. If it were not for you and the rest throwing in your two, this blog wouldn’t be what it is. Thanks for being here with me for 7 years.
#BlackLives Matter. Unfortunately to the vast majority of whites, sadly they don’t.
Social Butterfly: Thanks for reminding everyone. It cannot be stated enough how important it is to vote and as Alycedale stated, “Hang around and vote the republican ticket out.” Give the girl coattails. Yessss!!
Jamie: As I mentioned, I’m just catching up on the comments. Seems great minds think alike. :) I hadn’t read your post nor seen the many comments with regards to it till now. Oh well. Carlos, Anonymous: I ask the same question.
Pets in Beds: OK that was TMI. But if it saves another woman from having a fur ball in her vajayjay, I welcome the comment. Do people really sleep with their pets IN the bed, UNDER the sheets? Really, please don’t do that.
Anonymous: You got that right. I don’t mind it either when it’s said that way…in a good way. This evidently is not.
Has anyone been watching the RNC? Dominique: Thanks for posting this: Stephen Colbert – Hungry For Power Games – check your balls at the door.
LOL – Can’t stop laughing!
Wanna keep laughing? These are the dumb as a box of rocks kind of women voting for T rump. From the Huff Po:
Female GOP Delegates Explain Why They Like Donald Trump Despite His Misogyny
“He’s made it OK for people like me, Middle America, single moms, to speak their minds.”
CLEVELAND ― Donald Trump has called women “dogs,” “slobs,” “fat pigs,” and “disgusting animals.” But female delegates at the Republican National Convention are for the most part learning to forgive their controversial candidate and accept his misogynistic streak.
“I’ve said things like that about guys ― ‘Oh, he’s short, or look at his little feet.’ But [Trump is] just on the surface about it, and that’s the refreshing part for me, is that he can speak his mind, because we’ve been so inhibited,” Mary Susan, a 52-year-old delegate from Minneapolis told The Huffington Post in an interview at the convention. “Do I think that some of the things he said are hurtful? Maybe, yeah. But that’s the beauty of our First Amendment. We should be able to say things no matter what.”
Susan, a single mother of three, said Trump has given her confidence to speak up about political issues. “I think that as a woman, I’ve always felt my First Amendment rights have been inhibited,” she said. “He’s made it OK for people like me, Middle America, single moms, to speak their minds. He’s done more for me personally than the feminist movement.”
For a presidential nominee, Trump has a shocking history of sexist comments toward women. On his reality TV show, “Celebrity Apprentice,” he once told a female contestant, “Must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees.” He said women should face some kind of “punishment” for choosing abortion if it were to become illegal. And when Fox News reporter Megyn Kelly asked him about his attitude toward women, he said later that she must have had “blood coming out of her wherever.”
But those comments weren’t enough to alienate Sandye Kading, a Republican delegate from South Dakota who warmed up to Trump after he won the requisite 1,237 delegates to be nominated.
“You brought up Megyn Kelly,” Kading told HuffPost. “She’s gotten over it, and I think everybody else should too.”
“I’m a woman with a loose mouth so I get myself in trouble,”said Tila Hubrecht, an alternate delegate from Missouri. “If you’re in politics, you better have some tough skin, and if not, you best be getting yourself out. Everybody has their strengths. There’s not going to be any one candidate you’re going to find that’s perfect.”
Of course, not all Republican women at the convention support Trump. Susan Valentine, a longtime GOP activist from northern Virginia, said she will not vote for any presidential candidate this year. She is putting all her hopes in House and Senate races. “We have lots of other candidates that we need to protect from being dragged down by Donald Trump,” she said.
Valentine said “everything” about Trump bothers her. She is offended by comments he’s made about women, and as a passionate anti-abortion advocate, she is turned off by his waffling on the issue. Even Trump choosing Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R), a national leader in the fight against reproductive rights, for a running mate did not sway Valentine.
“To be honest, the way that Donald Trump has so far treated Mike Pence ― I’m sort of feeling sorry for Mike Pence,” she said. “But it was a courageous thing for him to do to accept the nomination. If you’re on a ticket with Donald Trump, it’s going to be unpredictable.”
Other women find it endearing that Trump is unpredictable and never says the right thing.
“We call him our little orange buffoon that we love,” Susan said.
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And there you have it.
Oh…Before I sign off what do you think of Melania’s speechwriter taking the fall?
Enough from me today. Lots to talk about so broach a topic and get it rolling.
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July 21st, 2016 at 11:09 pm
Michelle, black lives don’t matter because most whites think that by sharing equality with us they lose something. So they empower their police with the immunity to murder us.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:16 pm
The only reason white women like trump is because they are dumb as the box of rocks. If you know a man is a misogynist and you say you still like him, what else explains it.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:20 pm
60% of American white women vote like an easy to predict social science experiment. They go with what the white boy tells them is good, bad or ugly.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:23 pm
Trump supporters have proven to be the ONLY non political tribalists involved. Hillary is GWBII with a (D) next to her name and some handouts to keep her base looking the other way on war, spying, deficits, globalism.
But her party is full of dummies whose main priority in life is smearing republicans because some of them dont like gay people, so theyre gonna blindly support her and hiss at Trump anyway. Real genius lot over there.
Trump has exposed the mindless sheep like Silver in this country who ascribe false claims and positions to him simply because hes violated the golden rule of liberalism: Bo matter what, make sure minorities get an extra serving of pity. Forget safety, forget economy, forget logic… Just make sure you grandstand on behalf of all the minorities these liberal rejects project their own inadequacy onto. Fack off, Michelle
July 21st, 2016 at 11:24 pm
So far, Trump has been closely following Silvio Berlusconi’s footesteps in 1994 Italian general elections. From this side of the pond, his campaigning style closely mirrors Berlusconi’s one: the self-made-man allure, not part of the political milieu and being “one of the people” instead.
It is indeed being disruptive for the Republicans; however, I wouldn’t be so quick in considering Mrs. Clinton the absolute favorite: I think Trump’s shockwaves will be felt even in Democrats camp.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:25 pm
Trump has said nothing of offense about blacks… ok just to name a few (quick google search popped these up):
Sued twice by the justice dept for not renting (and charging higher rent) to minorities including black people.
Did not condemn KKK supporters during this election cycle, waffling on his knowledge of David Duke.
Accused Obama of not being American. Remember Obama has at least 90% approval among African Americans.
Frequently refers to minority groups in offensive, simplistic, questionable terminology. “the blacks love me”. Etc.
Pushed for the death penalty and more police state authority in a bad time in NY city history that caused 5 black men to get wrongfully accused and jailed. They were released and the charges dropped, but Trump has said he continues to believe they’re guilty (even though evidence says they are not).
Some of this stuff is old, but more recently his bigoted statements on muslims and mexicans stand out. This is important because people can see when you go after one minority group, your group might be next. He’s demonizing Mexicans now, are African Americans next? It’s a fair question. A person willing to denigrate one entire group of people may be willing to do the same to your group of people in the future. So even these comments are at least potentially offensive to black people, and should be offensive to all people.
Considering that conservatives make slippery slope arguments all the time about their pet issues (guns, abortion, etc), this is a fair point to make. And its still fresh in voters minds, the tribalism of angry whites that Trump has tapped into is what has made him the nominee of the GOP.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:27 pm
Populist Fascism is a word that Political pundits have thrown around about Trump for awhile. He is a simple man, that if he was given power would magically fix everything.
Bernie’s shockwaves are more worrisome. As most places in crisis, some turn to Socialism some to Fascism. It is an old story. Problem is, Clinton isn’t riding the wave of uncertainty and rebellion that Sanders and Trump are.
We’ll see if Clinton can tame the party. I don’t like Clinton’s career politician flip-flop, but it may serve her well (and the American people) if she can steal the fire that Bernie ignited. And if anyone can, it is the Clintons.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:29 pm
Many of my girl friends are supporting Trump. I cry myself to sleep at night worrying that he might get elected. Some of these girls have real intelligence. I just don’t understand the attraction Trump has for them.
Maybe it is as simple as most white women are as dumb as a box of rocks.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:32 pm
Alexander#7, Being sued does not equate to guilt. Criticizing Obama is not racist. My statement was he has said nothing offensive about blacks, which is what some accusers have directly proclaimed.
Also, Trump did not criticize Mexicans, he criticized illegal immigrants. Which is fully legitimate. Why is the left more concerned with feelings than with practical issues?
Seems the real world, where solutions arent always kumbaya, is too scary for them and they elect to live in a bubble of denial and simply spend 24/7 protecting everyone’s fragile psyches, since they presume everyone – ESPECIALLY minorities, whom they project endless insecurity upon – must have psyches as fragiles as theirs.
The fact is Trump is a guy with flaws like anyone else, and with character like anyone else. His personality isnt important, the issues hes wiling to take on is what’s important. But the left is too afraid to take on those issues, so they insist on smearing his character. if the most important quality in a president is never saying something unPC. It’s wholly pathetic.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:35 pm
Walker#9, Ok lets hone in on just one issue.
Are you sure there’s no racial component whatsoever to Trump accusing Obama of not being American?
I would bet you if you polled African Americans they would disagree with you heavily. So are they all ignorant? Do you know something they don’t?
July 21st, 2016 at 11:43 pm
When I am told by republican women that trump stands for more that feminism. I remind they get to vote because of feminism. They get access to birth control because of feminism. They get paid equally because of feminism. They get most of the things they get because of some feministic action that people like trump would never have allowed.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:44 pm
Leave Trump alone women support him for the same reason women continued to support President Clinton after he treated women poorly.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:45 pm
Treating women poorly on a personal level does not necessarily equate to trying to take away their rights. For example, Clinton’s SCOTUS appointments, RBG and Stephen Breyer both consistently vote in favor of a woman’s right to choose. The Clinton admin. created S-CHIP, and doubled funding for Head Start and child care subsidies.
As for the nasty things Trump says about women, they match up with the small peeks he gives us of his policy ideas – punishing women for getting abortions and…oh, right. He’s never said what his stances are on any other women’s issues (paid maternity leave, child care, wage inequality, etc.) because he couldn’t possibly care less.
Republicans would do well to leave Bill Clinton out of the conversation. It will not help them.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:53 pm
There is this huge disconnect with Republicans and logic. If you don’t want your kid killed in war then try to talk them out of going. Let them know there are other options for them rather than fighting old, fat ,white men’s wars over oil.
If you don’t want your kids shot at school then support gun control. It is like critical thinking is not fully developed in Republicans.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:54 pm
Why can gun nuts not grasp the basic fact that Chicago is awash in guns and murder because it is the lone gun control jurisdiction in a sea of trigger-happy states and municipalities? Chicago is NOT an example of ineffective policy: It is Exhibit A for the need for FEDERAL regulation.
And before you use the other favorite anti-regulation argument: Yes, people who really want guns will find a way to get them–but let’s make it as hard as possible. Background checks for all buyers. A national database showing who should not have access to guns. Registration for all guns. A “no-fly, no-buy” list for terror suspects. A buy-back program offering real money for real guns–a lot of people would love to get shed of Crazy Grandpa’s arsenal if it meant a couple thousand more for the estate. Take semi-automatic weapons and high-capacity magazines off the market.
Let’s make illegal acquisition of guns a matter of asking around, meeting creepy strangers in dark alleys down at the wharf, and paying 10 or 20 times the current market price for a weapon that may or may not actually work. Let’s make it even harder to get the right ammo.
We’ve tried making guns as easy to buy as a laptop and all we’ve gotten is bullet-ridden corpses. It’s time to do something else.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:55 pm
Most of our mass shootings were done with AR-15s purchased Legally thanks to your NRA overlords. God forbid one of the gun manufacturers they prop up not make a profit from their constant fear mongering.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:57 pm
To the best of my knowledge only members of the GOP have actually made opposition to critical thinking part of their official platform. Texas GOP, 2012:
Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.
ETA: It just occurred to me how conspiratorial this aspect of that platform sounds: the reasoning is that “critical thinking skills” is a concerted, programmatic effort to destroy the centralizing power of the family unit.
It really is a reminder that the stage was set ages ago for, among other things, Trump’s pointedly suggestive comments such as, “There’s something going on.”
July 21st, 2016 at 11:58 pm
Sad how Democrats considered the novel 1984 a how-to manual rather than a warning. Renaming fascism “critical thinking” does not change the ugly way Democrats try to outlaw any speech/ideas they disagree with.
July 21st, 2016 at 11:59 pm
Smith#19, What does having a sensible discussion about certain people not getting mass killing machines have to do with fascism?
Oh right, you don’t know the definition of fascism you just like to say it a lot.
July 22nd, 2016 at 6:38 am
Michelle, everyone knows that was a made up story. Melania’s speech writer lied to kill the media’s preoccupation with her plagiarism.
The Dope not firing her angle was to let him get something out of it. Even saving his wife embarrassment is about him. So he got to come very understanding.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:03 am
Meredith McIver is a staff writer for Trump’s main holding company, the Trump Organization.She was hired in 2001. She has never written a speech for anyone in Trump’s campaign, and she didn’t write one for Melania.
Here is her explanation for how parts of Michelle Obama’s 2008 speech got into Melania”s.
“In working with Melania Trump on her recent First Lady speech, we discussed many people who inspired her and messages she wanted to share with the American people. A person she has always liked is Michelle Obama. Over the phone, she read me some passages from Mrs. Obama’s speech as examples. I wrote them down and later included some of the phrasing in the draft that ultimately became the final speech. I did not check Mrs. Obama’s speeches. This was my mistake, and I feel terrible for the chaos I have caused Melania and the Trumps, as well as to Mrs. Obama. No harm was meant.
“Yesterday, I offered my resignation to Mr. Trump and the Trump family, but they rejected it. Mr. Trump told me that people make innocent mistakes and that we learn and grow from these experiences.
“I asked to put out this statement because I did not like seeing the way this was distracting from Mr. Trump’s historic campaign for president and Melania’s beautiful message and presentation.
“I apologize for the confusion and hysteria my mistake has caused. Today, more than ever, I am honored to work for such a great family. I personally admire the way Mr. Trump has handled this situation and I am grateful for his understanding.”
All lies. Trump tried to originally float the argument that no language had been purloined. The republicans took up that lie and tried to make it stick, but the plagiarism was just too obvious.
So they went to plan 2. Trump forced this employee to issue an apology in her own name and take the fall.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:04 am
Michelle, I liked this article by USA today. 4 questions raised by Trump plagiarism explanation
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/07/20/melania-trump-meredith-mciver-plagiarism-explanation-speechwriter/87342354/
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:07 am
I wouldn’t worry to much Mike,TM about Ms. Mclver. Her financial future is now secure. She was paid a pretty penny to take that fall.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:20 am
Michelle, this article by HuffPost says it all: An Apology Expert Analyzes The Explanation For Melania Trump’s Plagiarism
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/an-apology-expert-analyzes-the-explanation-for-melania-trumps-plagiarism_us_57903401e4b0fc06ec5bb540?yptr=yahoo
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:23 am
Melania needs to apologize for lying in saying that she wrote the speech. She claimed that the speech was her own words.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:28 am
The lie by Trump and Melania is bad enough, but the followers who look at those of us and act like they believe those lies are insulting our intelligence.
My cousin is a strong advocate for trump. She rails at Hilary”s “deceptions” at every opportunity. Yet, when I pointed out this obvious lie by trump, the party and Melania, she feigns disbelief and claims that she believes their lies about what happened.
Some white women are indeed dumb as that proverbial Box of Rocks.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:32 am
According to McIver, Melania was the one who introduced introduced the stolen quotes into the speech writing process in the first place, which means she couldn’t have been in the dark about where they came from when she gave the speech.
How could anyone claim that they didn’t know it was plagiarism to include whole passages from Michelle’s speech?
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:38 am
Melania said she wrote it. So she needs to own it. Hey Doug, now you see those two sets of rules you thought you saw in Rand Paul’s bull shit video.
It’s simple Doug. Melania plagiarized Michelle Obama’s 2008 speech, but she doesn’t have to admit plagiarism, she can get someone else to accept that charge.
Where are you Doug to explain that to us when we need it. I checked your FB account and didn’t find it.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:40 am
Michelle, Melania said she worked on it for weeks. I didn’t know that copying and pasting took that long.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:42 am
I think Melania was telling the truth when she said she wrote it with as little help as possible. Who gave her that help? I’m guessing her Husband did.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:48 am
Melania owes Michelle Obama an apology. I think that might happen when hell freezes over.
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:54 am
Karen#26, my family are solid trump supporters. They are saying when asked about Melania’s plagiarism that since Michelle Obama’s speech wasn’t copywritted then it is not considered to be plagiarism.
When I said to them you have to be joking. There doesn’t have to be a copywrite on the speech for it to be considered plagiarism, they accused me of being brainwashed by liberal democrat lies.
July 22nd, 2016 at 8:36 am
(NEWSER) – Despite promising “the truth, and nothing else” in his convention speech, Donald Trump presented the nation with a series of previously debunked claims and some new ones Thursday night—about the US tax burden, the perils facing police, Hillary Clinton’s record, and more. Here’s what fact-checkers at the AP, the New York Times, and the Washington Post made of his claims, which painted a bleak portrait of the USA in 2016:
“The number of police officers killed in the line of duty has risen almost 50% compared to this point last year.” False: According to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, line-of-duty deaths are up 8% this year, from 62 at this point last year to 67 so far this year.
“Homicides last year increased by 17% in America’s 50 largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years.” True, though analysts say Trump cherry-picked those figures, omitting that the statistical jump was so large because homicides are still very low by historical standards—and are down again so far in 2016.
“Two million more Latinos are in poverty today than when President Obama took his oath of office less than eight years ago.” True, but misleading: The Hispanic population has risen since Obama took office, while the poverty rate has fallen. The Pew Research Center found that 23.5% of the country’s 55.3 million Latinos live in poverty, compared with 24.7% in 2010.
“Nearly four in 10 African-American children are living in poverty, while 58% of African-American youth are not employed.” False: The correct youth unemployment figure is 31%, compared to 14% for whites.
“America is one of the highest-taxed nations in the world.” False: The US tax burden is actually the fourth lowest among the 34 developed and large emerging-market economies that make up the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, below only Chile, South Korea, and Mexico. Taxes made up 26% of the total US economy in 2014, according to the OECD, far below Sweden’s tax burden of 42.7% or Germany’s 36.1%.
“Household incomes are down more than $4,000 since the year 2000.” This would have been true in 2014, when the median household income was $53,657, compared to $57,724 in 2000. The most recent report puts median household income at $57,206, almost the same as in 2000, though the figures haven’t been adjusted for inflation.
“President Obama has doubled our national debt to more than $19 trillion, and growing.” Almost true: the debt has gone from $10.6 trillion when Obama took office to $19.2 trillion as of April.
The Post notes that not only has Trump cherry-picked or inflated many figures, he has simply ignored positive ones, “such as rising incomes and an unemployment rate under 5%,” as well as the fact that the violent crime rate is still around half what it was 25 years ago.
July 22nd, 2016 at 8:39 am
Flags are pointing to Meredith McIver being a made up person, invented to take the fall for the speech:
https://www.good.is/articles/will-the-real-meredith-mciver-stand-up
July 22nd, 2016 at 9:53 am
[…] Mike, TM: Exactly. That is what I read and my thoughts are with you. The supposed speech writer took the fall for Melania. […]