More Women Sexually Harassed by Ailes Speak Out
Posted by Michelle Moquin on July 11th, 2016
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And the story continues.
From NYMag:
Six More Women Allege That Roger Ailes Sexually Harassed Them
Gretchen Carlson and Roger Ailes. Gretchen Carlson and Roger Ailes. Photo: Noam Galai; Getty Images; Wesley Mann/FOX
Fox News host Gretchen Carlson may be the highest-profile woman to accuse Roger Ailes of sexual harassment, but she is not the first. In my 2014 biography of the Fox News chief, I included interviews with four women who told me Ailes had used his position of power to make either unwanted sexual advances or inappropriate sexual comments in the office.
And it appears she won’t be the last, either. In recent days, more than a dozen women have contacted Carlson’s New Jersey-based attorney, Nancy Erika Smith, and made detailed allegations of sexual harassment by Ailes over a 25-year period dating back to the 1960s when he was a producer on The Mike Douglas Show. “These are women who have never told these stories until now,” Smith told me. “Some are in lot of pain.” Taken together, these stories portray Ailes as a boss who spoke openly of expecting women to perform sexual favors in exchange for job opportunities. “He said that’s how all these men in media and politics work — everyone’s got their friend,” recalled Kellie Boyle, who says Ailes propositioned her in 1989, shortly after he helped George H.W. Bush become president, serving as his chief media strategist.
Six of the women agreed to speak with New York publicly for the first time. Two spoke on the record; the others requested anonymity for reasons that include shame and fear of retribution. “I didn’t tell my husband, it was so mortifying,” said Marsha Callahan, a former model who says Ailes harassed her in the late ‘60s, shortly before he became Richard Nixon’s media adviser.
Ailes is clearly trying to keep these stories out of the press and the courts. Late on Friday, his lawyers filed a motion in federal court in New Jersey seeking to move Carlson’s lawsuit to arbitration, which would prevent witnesses from being called in court. “Plaintiff’s ploy of filing in Superior Court to justify her shameless publicity campaign against Roger Ailes should not be countenanced,” Ailes’s lawyers argued. Carlson’s lawyers responded in a statement: “Roger Ailes is trying to force this case into a secret arbitration proceeding…Gretchen never agreed to arbitrate anything with Mr. Ailes.”
Ailes’s spokesperson Irena Briganti did not respond to requests for comment. (Update: Ailes’s outside council Barry Asen has now responded to the new allegations. His statement can be found at the bottom of this post.)
Here are the women’s accounts:
Kellie Boyle, 54
Former Republican National Committee field adviser
This was back in 1989. I was 29 and living in New Jersey. My husband worked at CNBC and he said, ‘Roger Ailes is coming in to be interviewed, would you like to meet him?’ I said yes! I’d worked in political communications for the Republican National Committee; so Roger Ailes was like a God. I’d read his book, You Are the Message, and I used it for a lot of training I did for candidates.
I introduced myself in the green room and he was very charming and said, ‘Would you like to visit my office downtown sometime?’ A week or two later I went in and mentioned to him I was going down to D.C. the following week to sign a major contract with the National Republican Congressional Committee. He said, ‘I’m going to be in D.C. too. Would you like to have dinner before you go in?’ So we had a nice dinner at a restaurant in Union Station.
There was nothing untoward about it at all. He had a driver and a car, and after dinner he said, ‘Can I take you to your friend’s?’ So we get in the car and that’s when he said, ‘You know if you want to play with the big boys, you have to lay with the big boys.’ I was so taken aback. I said, ‘Gosh I didn’t know that. How would that work?’
I was trying to kill time because I didn’t know if he was going to attack me. I was just talking until I could get out of the car. He said, ‘That’s the way it works,’ and he started naming other women he’s had. He said that’s how all these men in media and politics work — everyone’s got their friend. I said, ‘Would I have to be friends with anybody else?’ And he said, ‘Well you might have to give a blowjob every once in a while.’ I told him I was going to have to think about this. He said, ‘No, if you don’t do it now, you know that means you won’t.’
The next morning I show up to get my assignment and was told the guy I was supposed to be meeting with was unavailable. Back in New Jersey I got a call from Roger Ailes. He said, ‘How’d your meeting go?’ I said, ‘Actually he wasn’t available and I’m hoping to hear back from him.’ He said, ‘Ah, well, I’m sure you will. Have you changed your mind yet?’ I said, ‘I’ll have to pass, Roger. I’m married and really committed to my husband. No offense.’ He said, ‘Well, we’ll be in touch.’ And that was that.
A couple weeks later, I called a friend who was very high up in the RNC and I asked him what happened. He said, ‘Word went out you weren’t to be hired.’
Marsha Callahan, 73
Former model
This was either ’68 or ’67. At the time he was producing The Mike Douglas Show, and I had a call from my modeling agency about the show. I got a call directly from Roger asking me to come down and to make sure I wore a garter belt and stockings. This was right after pantyhose came into use, and I said, ‘Why would you want me to do that instead of pantyhose?’ He said, ‘If your legs look good in a garter belt, I’ll know you have great legs.’
So I go into his office and right away he says, ‘Sit on the sofa and lift your skirt up.’ I had to do these different poses. And then, I recall very clearly, he said he’d put me on the show but I needed to go to bed with him.
I was a really shy girl, but I was a little cheeky so I said, ‘Oh yeah, you and who else?’ And he said, ‘Only me and a few of my select friends.’ I said, ‘Well, if you think I have star quality and you can make money off my looks, I don’t think it’d matter if I went to bed with you or not.’ And he said, ‘Oh, pretty girls like you are a dime a dozen.’
The interview ended quickly. I was called in to do the show and I remember passing Roger in the hallway. He pretended not to know who I was.
Susan*, 66
Former model
I was 16 years old living in Radnor, Pennsylvania. I was sent over for a walk-on part on The Mike Douglas Show in the winter of 1967. It was 6:30 in the evening and the place was totally closing up. Ailes took me into this big office and locked the door with a key. He reclined on a couch in a seating area under a map that had flags of all the cities they were syndicated in. He proceeded to pull down his pants and very gingerly pull out his genitals and said, “Kiss them.” And they were red like raw hamburger.
He was pretty meticulously dressed, with long white shirttails coming out. It was like he was just at the end of a long day and I was supposed to know what to do. I was a kid, I’d never seen a man’s privates before.
I jumped up, but the door is locked and nobody’s out there. He chased me around the office and at some point it dawned on him that this just wasn’t going to happen. He finally pulled up his trousers. He was very angry and rushed over to his desk, pulled open a door and had a reel-to-reel tape recorder going. He said to me, ‘Don’t tell anybody about this. I’ve got it all on tape.’ I think he knew I was sixteen.
Jane*, 62
Former model/actress
It was around 1984; I was about 30. I had just arrived in New York. My agent was hoping to get me into broadcasting. I had an appointment with Ailes. He had a camera set up and a little desk and a script for me. It was a cooking kind of thing, talking about food and what not.
After he taped me, he locked the door and said he didn’t want any interruptions. I figured out pretty quickly there was no job and this was just ruse. He pulled out a garter belt and stockings and told me to put them on. I was very nervous; I didn’t know what to do. He was standing there and I put them on. He wanted me to model them for him.
After that, something sexual took place, but I blocked it out of my mind. I don’t know if I engaged with him orally or he engaged with himself. I felt I was being used for his sexual satisfaction. I felt very threatened. He wanted me to take the lingerie home for the next time. I said, ‘No thank you, I don’t want to keep it for the next time.’ I left and I knew I’d never return.
Through the years I felt like a horrible person because I allowed this to happen to me and I didn’t just say fuck off and walk out of the room. My husband doesn’t even know.
Diane*, 69
Media consultant
This is something I’ve carried with me and haven’t told anybody. I was just appalled to read about Gretchen’s story and see how he’s behaving after 50 years. This was so long ago. I was in college doing some modeling work with an agency in the Philadelphia area. This would have been late ’65 or early ’66; I would have been 18 or 19 years old.
A bunch of us girls at the agency were called over to audition for him for some sort of skit on The Mike Douglas Show. He had a room and one by one he would take us behind closed doors. When my turn came I went in and he didn’t waste any time. He grabbed me and had his hands on me and he forced me to kiss him. When I recoiled he said, ‘Well, you know no girls get a job here unless they’re cooperative.’ I just pushed him away and ran out of there. He was like, whatever. So, no job for me. He did hire several of the girls from the group, but I don’t know what they had to do to get the job.
Pat*, 65
Former TV producer
It was 1975. I had a degree in mass communications. A college friend said, ‘Come to New York.’ I got an interview with Roger Ailes. I remember I met him not at some big TV office; it was at his apartment on Central Park South. I don’t remember his exact words, but his message was: If you want to make it in New York City in the TV business, you’re going to have to fuck me, and you’re going to do that with anyone I tell you to. I was afraid he was going to pin me down. He was a big guy and I’m not big at all. He could have overpowered me.
I remember running out of that apartment like my hair was on fire and standing on the sidewalk crying, thinking, What’s that guy think I was, a prostitute? In one second my dreams were shot. He’s going to blackball me everywhere, I’ll never get another interview, I’m not good enough — all that stuff a 20-something girl thinks. It wasn’t, that guy’s a son of a bitch and I should have kicked him in the balls.
*Pseudonyms.
Update: Roger Ailes’s outside counsel, Barry Asen, has released the following statement regarding these new accounts:
It has become obvious that Ms. Carlson and her lawyer are desperately attempting to litigate this in the press because they have no legal case to argue. The latest allegations, all 30 to 50 years old, are false.
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Readers: This piece of shit Ailes is disgusting. We think Cosby was bad enough. I have a feeling we’re going to find out this pig was even worse. More than a dozen women have come out – I have no doubt this is the beginning of something big.
If a man can get away with the things he has done in this day and age, one can only imagine what he did to all of these women back then when there was no one these women could turn to. To live with the shame, embarrassment, feelings of not good enough, passed around like a pieces of meat, thoughts of “What did I do wrong?“ No outlet to voice as they have now.
Ailes was a sick man back in the day but it looks like nothing has changed. He’s still preying on women which shows he still has absolutely no respect for them.
Good for Carlson and these other women for speaking out. Creeps like Ailes need to be exposed. I don’t care how many years he has gotten away with it. His luck has just run out.
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July 11th, 2016 at 12:14 pm
“All lives matter, but right now, black lives matter,” Will.i.am said. “Because of the things that are happening to us right now, we need white people to stand beside us. We’re all Americans at the end of the day.”
July 11th, 2016 at 3:02 pm
worth a read, http://www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8661977/race-police-officer
July 11th, 2016 at 3:14 pm
A FAN #1: Iv’e got your back, will stand beside, or in front of you. Racism in these United States has certainly reared it’s ugly head once Obama got elected. It is sickening how bigots have been crawling out of the woodwork because it was made clear to them that blacks are equal to whites in every way.
If it were ever proven that OTW’s might be superior in some way, half the country would would drop dead of a heart attack on the spot. I being white, would say an over all equal is adequate. Black lives do matter, as much as mine does. Bigotry must die.
July 11th, 2016 at 9:01 pm
“All lives matter” is like I go to the doctor for a broken arm and he says “all bones matter.” Okay, but right now, let’s take care of this broken one.
/SB
July 12th, 2016 at 2:24 am
Social Butter, most people know that is what BLM is saying. But white men in america attacks the group that wants equality with them by disparaging that group.
Remember what they did to women because they wanted to attain equality to white men through an equal rights amendment? They wanted the ERA Amendment to pass. White males actually had the media and then the rest of the country make fun of and then made women embarrassed to be a part of the ERA moment. It lost.
Remember what they did to ACORN because they wanted to attain equality to white men through voter registration? They framed them with voter fraud. Even though it has now been proven that the lies were made up, the white boy controlled media continues to spread the lie less they come back.
Now we have their attack upon BLM.
The most feared minority to the white boy is the American black. The reason is most other races will just give up in the face of the white boys onslaught.
Blacks will do what it takes to fight them. If you remember the civil right battles whites like to tell the lie that it was the non violence of MLK that won the day. Implying by it that whites just woke up and gave rights to the blacks.
The truth is it was a combination of Russia using a new invention called Television to tell the rest of the world mainly the arabs that white america would be as vicious to them as they were to people of color in their own country. {You can imagine the effect of putting on a picture screen live the attacking women and children with cops and dogs did to the American image. One result Egypt who had the largest army in the Middle East went to Russia. The white boy saw the handwriting on the wall, if they didn’t change their image, oil from the Middle East would be a memory. Even the other bigoted white european countries were telling the US it had better fix their image.
Along with that problem came the black man that was getting tired of being pummeled by the white boy. All that powder keg needed was a man like Stokely Carmichael who lit that powder with the remark “if a white man hits me, I’ll kill him before god gets the news.”
Riots broke out. In California gun laws were changed when blacks began to openly carry guns.
The white boy is basically gutless unless he has the superior fire power. Witness how he Texas cops handled the situation with one black man taking them on. They panicked and resorted to using a bomb to attack him.
Had the black man had any help they would have destroyed the image of a white boy with a badge and gun capable of controlling an few angry black men.
Yes, A Fan#1, we need white people like us who are human beings to assist, but I tell you this if this keeps up I truly believe that St. Micah Xavier Johnson will be our new Storkely Carmichael. If cops continue to murder us at will, we will begin to kill them before god gets the news.
I know I am personally willing to go the way of St. Micah Xavier Johnson to get the murder of black people by cops to stop.
I am pretty sure that those gutless wonders will stop as soon as they are confronted with a determined group willing to die for a cause.
Fuck the so called “good” cops saying they are not the ones doing it. They ARE the problem because they look the other way when their racist thugs with badges among them do their murders. Why should their asses be spared. Let them be the collateral damage of this cause.
Black men need to wake up as their forefathers did in the 60′s. Let’s find out just how determined white america is to continue to allowed their racist thugs with badges to murder us. Black men need to follow the example of St. Micah Xavier Johnson and bring the heat.
July 12th, 2016 at 2:33 am
Most of the horror stories by women above happened in the last few decades. Imagine how many other famous men who have died having gotten away with raping and forcing women to sub come to their sick sexual desires.
The entertainment industry is but one source of control the tiny dick white boy has used to sexually abuse women.
July 12th, 2016 at 2:40 am
When will the OTW in America wake up and realize that the Spring has come to their country. If those whites in their country won’t convict a cop of murdering them, why should they side with those people in the fight against us?
Your Muhammed Ali refused to fight the Vietnamese when whites then refused to give them equality. Now is the time to tell those hypocrites that you will not fight iS until they stop their dogs with badges from killing your men, women and children.
July 12th, 2016 at 2:42 am
Whites in your country like to come to ours and tell us they will liberate us from our oppressive situation. But looking at what they are doing to oppress their OTWs why should be believe or want them in our country?
July 12th, 2016 at 2:51 am
Whites in America control the drug trade. No one in Mexico or South America is forcing them to take our drugs.
Your law enforcement would not be such a lucrative employment opportunity if not for their proclaimed “war on drugs.” Billions of US dollars are spent supposedly combating drug traffic.
The truth is many cops are getting filthy rich looking the other way or participating in the drug trade. Do you actually think that thousands of TONS of drugs can cross your borders every year without a lot of help from your law enforcement?
While you white bigots are building a wall to keep the people out, what will you do to stop your crooked cops from bringing tons of drugs each day?
The joke’s on you hypocrites. The cops and your crooked politicians are selling you out while that destroy our countries by insuring the drug cartels here continue to flourish. Don’t be fooled by a few high profile drug busts.
Those busts occur when the leaders of those cartels they have created stop paying them off. Then the attempt to take them out so they can put into place a new more cooperative leader of the cartel.
It is your bought and paid for politicians and crooked cops who are causing the deaths and misery of the people in both North and South America.
July 12th, 2016 at 2:56 am
Women are exploited everywhere. I left Brazil a country that abuses women as a right. I came to America in hopes of avoiding that for my children.
Now I find that it is as prevalent here as it was there. The only difference is that the US lies about how bad it is. They cover up their disgusting abuse of women.
July 12th, 2016 at 2:58 am
Hundreds of years have gone by and very little has changed in your country. As long as the demographics don’t change the white boy will continue to pollute your country as if it is his on private toilet.
July 12th, 2016 at 3:02 am
Alycedale#5, I agree with you. We need to start making bumper stickers with Micah Xavier Johnson’s name and proudly sport them on our vehicles. If the white boy can proudly sport their american nazi confederate flag as a means of free speech, then we can sport MXJ’s bumper sticker and wear a T-shirt with his face on it.
I will pay any price for one. I bet there is a huge market out their for one.
July 12th, 2016 at 3:07 am
Great Idea Ruth/AF#12, but can you imagine the hypocritical outcry against anything associated with MXJ? The same whites that don’t see anything wrong with whites who sport a flag that represents enslavement, murder, rape, incest, and terrorizing blacks being displayed because of “free speech issues” will loudly decry any attempt to wear a MXJ symbol.
I’d pay good money to see the movement started.
July 12th, 2016 at 3:10 am
The whites in your country will tell you that they are profiling arabs because we are a danger to your whole country. That is a lie. They are attempting to recruit into a cause to protect their own white racist asses.
When you have helped them eliminate us, you will be next, that is if they take time off from killing you with their cops.
July 12th, 2016 at 3:13 am
Personally I see not reason to witness anything IS or ISIS or any other group does in white only neighborhoods.
Let their racist thug cops protect them. Why should OTWs risk anything for the racist’s bastards?
July 12th, 2016 at 3:22 am
If this line of dialogue continues the powerful white boy will figure some way to make your blog a pariah Michelle. The white boy does not suffer critique well.
He will enrage his brethren with propaganda that here white america is hated. Never mind that the majority here are probably whites who see racism as terrible and the murder of blacks as a crime that should be addressed in the courts with the severity that it deserves.
The same authorities and white boy controlled media will attack your blog and you unmercifully. Remember what they did to the black reverend who said “gotdamn america for being racists?” The white boy left out the for being racist part and inflamed white america with the “gottdamn america.”
As Alycedale#5 said, the white boy is masterful when it comes to his big brother type of cause manipulation. Although I think he is not so much brilliant as he is dealing with an audience that is so narcissistic that it doesn’t take much to convince them they are under attack.
White america has done so much dirt to the OTW in this country, they are always looking behind them for the karma to catch up.
July 12th, 2016 at 3:26 am
The bigoted whites in your country come to mine and bring their hate here. Many of your house representatives come here and pay our politicians to enact laws which punish gays with death.
I hate americans. They are evil and pollute the world with their hated. My brother was burned alive because of the hate your sick whites brought to my country.
I hope IS goes their with a vengeance on Allah can bring.
July 12th, 2016 at 3:29 am
It is the racism in your country that you will have to worry about that could cause an ISIS supported reaction in your country.
No amount of profiling will stop it if your racist whites continue unabated to terrorize the OTWs in your country especially the islamic faction of america.
July 12th, 2016 at 3:41 am
I am tired of telling my children to be careful of white cops when they go out. I for one will not interfere or witness anything IS does in segregated white neighborhoods or to white cops.
Let white mothers learn what it feels like to have to warn their loved one to be careful when they leave their homes.
The white boy can shut down this blog if he wishes but he will not succeed in shutting the movement that says “I don’t give a damn what happens to those racist, hypocritical bastards.” They will only be shutting down the dialogue that exposes the attitude that causes the movement.
July 12th, 2016 at 3:51 am
I am a proud citizen of the People’s Republic of China. It seems that everything good that America claims it stands for is shrouded in hypocrisy or outright lies. This blog has me reading western news clips several times daily.
I am appalled at the violence tolerated by white americans towards its OTWs. I hope my country remains strong so that when your whites begin their racism towards China, we will be able to resist as forcefully as necessary.
I would rather die in a nuclear holocaust than be subjugated by the evil whites in your country who, without a moment of hesitation, would turn their murdering cops upon us.
July 12th, 2016 at 4:01 am
America is a country that offers sanctuary to ALL the world. A few racists have taken the stage and given us a black eye to the world.
I am white and I hate no one. Nor do I condone the wanton murder of OTWs by racist cops. As in every other crisis that has arisen, America, acting in unison, will sort this out.
Nothing will divide and conquer the idea that All men and women are created equal which the majority of this country stands for.
I realize that some on both sides are getting fed up with the situation as it is now. But the Republic is still strong.
Work to make it better. Don’t give in to those who would divide us. WE are ALL Americans. This is OUR country. Together WE will decide its future.
That decision begins at the polls. Get out and vote. Get rid of these haters and dividers. I am voting for Hillary R. Clinton and every democrat on a ticket.
Fuck the rhetoric! Get out and Vote!!!
July 12th, 2016 at 4:33 am
Thank you Michelle for speaking out for the abuse women have to put up with just to earn a decent living.
July 12th, 2016 at 4:36 am
Michelle, Women do cry wolf. All they had to do to land a million dollar + job is kiss an old fartbag’s genitals?
What are they bitching about?
July 12th, 2016 at 4:37 am
I love your commentary. You are calling Roger Ailes the “white Bill Cosby” and the “Bill Cosby of the media”.
July 12th, 2016 at 4:41 am
Why is it that these woman always come out of the woodwork twenty years later? Look at Bill Cosby? Is it because they got their job through sexual favors? And now feel cheated?
Is the position available that good that these woman would do anything for the job? And what does that say about their integrity? Look Gretchen Carlson did what she did to get her job, and now she is complaining?
OBTW !!!! FOX does have the best hotties on TV. So what you are saying is that all the woman on FOX are there because of sexual favors?
July 12th, 2016 at 4:43 am
The women on Fox dress like Mexico City whores!
July 12th, 2016 at 4:48 am
Okay, I can get behind some of these women complaining about a man wanting some sex for a job. But those fox bitches? Come on, they sell out on more than just giving up a little pussy for the job. They sell our every hard working woman when they spin the shit they do against women. They help men debase women every day on that channel.
What’s blond, wears a short skirt, and spends the day preening in front of the FOX News cameras while knee-deep in bullsh*t?
Yep, approximately 90% of the female commentators on the News Corp payroll.
The sad truth is that Roger Ailes expects the women that he hires to dress provocatively if they will be hosting or serving as guest commentators on FOX News programming, especially when the show format involves sitting on a sofa.
July 12th, 2016 at 4:53 am
Just another hypocrite getting hoisted by his own petard. Remember Roger Ailes’s comments against Trump were rife with his hypocritical public statements regarding Trump’s so called treatment of women.
Case in point: “Donald Trump’s surprise and unprovoked attack on Megyn Kelly and women is unacceptable as it is disturbing. We have never been deterred by powerful politicians or anyone else attacking us for defending women, much less allowed ourselves to be bullied by anyone and we’re certainly not going to start now.” Roger Ailes Chairman & CEO FOX News.
Men they will lie about their concern for women all the while trying to force or coerce them into satisfying their sick sexual desires.
July 12th, 2016 at 5:03 am
I’m tired of men suggesting that because women wait a long time before they accuse a man that means they are lying.
To those men I say women don’t need to explain to you – or anyone else – why they waited. But for your information because these men were, and in some cases still are, power men who can and would ruin women’s careers if they dare tell the truth by themselves.
The victims come out of the woodwork when they feel that they no longer have to fear retribution. At the time they were harassed, it was only their word versus that of a powerful celebrity/executive, and they had everything to lose: their career, relationships with colleagues, and more.
It’s usually when a high-profile woman speaks out that you get the other reports, since those less influential women feel like they can finally tell the truth without facing retaliation.
If the piece of shit tries to wreck them now, it just proves that he’s the guilty low life bastard they claim he is.
July 12th, 2016 at 9:40 am
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