Clinton And Trump Are Not In The Same Camp When It Comes To Supporting Women
Posted by Michelle Moquin on October 4th, 2016
Good morning!
As I mentioned it’s really challenging when it comes to choosing just one thing to report on Trump (Yes, I”m obviously talking about him again, and I don’t see myself taking too many breaks before the election ), because in just a week since the first presidential debate, so much has been exposed about him, his companies, his taxes…
But considering that I’m a girl’s girl, and my loyalty goes to the females first on this planet, my choice was easy for today.
I don’t know about you but it really riles me when people put Clinton and Trump in the same camp when it comes to the support of women or the lack thereof. On the one hand, you’ve got Trump who is clearly a misogynist, and has absolutely no problem calling women all sorts of names, objectifying them, blaming the woman when she’s a victim of sexual harassment, insulting women for breast feeding, saying women should be punished for having abortions, disparaging women’s bodies and sexual histories…etc.,etc.
And somehow Trump supporters are silent when it comes to Trump’s horrific disrespect for women, but are vitriolic towards Hillary when it comes to Hillary criticizing women tied to her husband’s sexual escapades. Even blaming Hillary for them.
The write from Think Progress:
PSA: It’s really, really sexist to blame Hillary Clinton for Bill’s infidelity
But the Trump campaign wants credit for not doing it more.
Pundits, journalists, and real-time polls agree: The first presidential debate was a bad night for Republican nominee Donald Trump. In full spin mode, Trump campaign operatives are now grasping at straws — and, continuing on a common theme, they’re coming up sexist.
In a particularly egregious example, Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani said that Hillary Clinton is “too stupid to be president” because she didn’t know about her husband’s infidelity, continuing a grossly sexist line of attack the campaign has employed before.
“After being married to Bill Clinton for 20 years, if you didn’t know the moment Monica Lewinsky said that Bill Clinton violated her that she was telling the truth, then you’re too stupid to be president,” he said, in a video captured by Elite Daily reporter Alexandra Svokos.
“The president of the United States, her husband, disgraced this country with what he did in the Oval Office and she didn’t just stand by him, she attacked Monica Lewinsky,” said Giuliani.
Although Giuliani claims to be horrified at Bill Clinton’s infidelity, it’s a clear case of the pot calling the kettle ‘cheater.’
While Mayor of New York, Giuliani gave a press conference to announce that he was leaving his second wife for his mistress — before telling his current wife or his children (another interesting tidbit about Giuliani’s marital history: his first wife was his second cousin). And now, Giuliani is enthusiastically stumping for Trump, who had a highly public affair with his second wife, Marla Maples, while still married to his first wife, Ivana.
If Trump’s infidelity doesn’t disqualify him from office, and Giuliani’s infidelity doesn’t disqualify him from political prominence, it’s unclear why Clinton’s husband’s infidelity should disqualify her.
Nonetheless, instead of attacking the man who was unfaithful, Giuliani is blaming Hillary Clinton for decisions that her husband made — and suggesting that she’s stupid for being transgressed against.
It isn’t the first time this smear has reared its head this campaign and, if the Trump campaign is any indication, it won’t be the last.
While flailing toward the end of the debate, Trump made strange, vague threats that seemed to suggest he was thinking about bringing up Monica Lewinsky.
TRUMP: You want to know the truth? I was going to say something…
HOLT: Please very quickly.
TRUMP: … extremely rough to Hillary, to her family, and I said to myself, “I can’t do it. I just can’t do it. It’s inappropriate. It’s not nice.”
After the debate, Trump said outright that he was “holding back” on Bill Clinton’s infidelities.
“I’m very happy that I was able to hold back on the indiscretions with respect to Bill Clinton because I have a lot of respect for Chelsea Clinton,” he toldCNN. “And I just didn’t want to say what I was going to say…which is I’ll tell you maybe at the next debate.”
Of course, by mentioning how proud he was of not mentioning it, Trump managed to both insert the story into the news cycle and pretend to be a good guy while doing so. On MSNBC Tuesday morning, Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway said that because Trump didn’t mention Bill Clinton’s infidelities, Trump displayed “great temperament and restraint.”
“I have to say, certainly as a woman, I appreciated the restraint at the end — I’m not sure I would have been able to exercise it myself — but restraint is a virtue, and it’s a presidential virtue,” Conway said. “To tell Hillary Clinton, after she accused him of being terrible with women, to tell Hillary Clinton, ‘I was prepared to go rough tonight and I’m not going to do it because your husband and your daughter are here,’ that is going to grow in importance over the next couple of days as the moment of great temperament and restraint.”
Later in the interview, she was asked specifically what Trump showed restraint on.
“I think we can all finish the sentence. People did last night. They finished the sentence. They said you know, maybe he was going to talk about Bill Clinton’s record with women,” Conway said.
When host Willie Geist pressed Conway about whether Donald Trump holds Hillary Clinton responsible for Bill Clinton’s record with women, she demurred, replying, “He didn’t say that.”
By bringing up Monica Lewinsky, however, that’s exactly what Trump and his campaign are doing: They are insinuating that Hillary Clinton is somehow at fault for her husband’s actions.
The Trump campaign isn’t new to this game. On Saturday, Trumpthreatened to invite Gennifer Flowers, a woman who had an affair with Bill Clinton in the 1970s, to the debate as his guest to sit in the front row. Separately, a “Trump Insider” released a statement to Fox News insinuating that Flowers was a “failure” of Hillary Clinton’s.
Trump also employed this line of attack against longtime Clinton aide Huma Abedin when news broke of her estranged husband Anthony Weiner’s latest sexting scandal. Even though Weiner is not actually affiliated with the campaign, Trump implied that Clinton has bad judgment because the husband of one of her aides made a poor choice.
It’s a simple concept, but one that bears repeating. Bill Clinton is responsible for his own infidelities, not Hillary Clinton. Weiner is responsible for his own infidelities, not Huma Abedin, and certainly not Hillary Clinton.
Suggesting that men’s actions reflect badly on women is a familiar sexist trope.
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Readers: “Great temperament and restraint.” Oh please, Conway. Alert the media! That’s one time out of hundreds that Trump sort of expressed any restraint and his temperament was far from “great.”. Conway acts as if he deserves a medal. And perhaps he does (not) - Most of the time Trump is completely himself unrestrained and uncensored. Unfortunately for Trump, that rare moment didn’t get the “importance” that she had anticipated and hoped for because it got lost in all that was revealed of Trump this past week when he showed no signs of great temperament and restraint.
And what about Guiliani? (Ugh, he is another one that disgusts me.) Not only are people blaming the victim, in this case, Hillary Clinton, for her husband’s extramarital affairs, Giuliani is upset because Hillary attacked Monica Lewinsky.
Well, I would certainly hope that she would when she did. Hello…news flash: Lewinsky was not the victim. Lewinsky was playing around with Clinton’s husband, Bill. Hillary had every right to attack and discredit her. Lewinsky struck first. She should’ve kept her mouth shut. (pun intended.)
Lewinsky knew that Bill Clinton, the president of the United States was married, and yet she still pursued an affair. She was old enough to know better. Any woman who knowingly cheats with another woman’s man, in my opinion, is not a girl’s girl. Yes, men cheat but only because women agree to it. Lewisnky agreed to the deed knowing it was wrong. She deserved any dismissing she received from Hillary.
Yet so many people see this as Hillary not being supportive of women. There is no comparison. Hillary would never have attacked or discredited Lewinsky if she hadn’t had an affair with her husband. Period. Lewinsky received that response from Hillary strictly because of her actions. Not for any other reason and not just because she is a woman, unlike Trump who goes after women for that reason alone.
Trump’s huge dislike and disrespect for women is not in the same camp as Hillary criticizing and discrediting women who engaged in affairs with her husband. Trump is not a supporter of women. Hillary has been a strong advocate for women and their rights for decades.
There’s two things wrong going on here. 1) A double standard. If it was the other way around, we would never hear that a man was blamed for his wife’s infidelities. And…2) Once again, false equivalency is showing face by people comparing the lack of support of women from Trump, and Hillary having every right to respond the way she did to women involved in her husband’s infidelities. Many Trump supporters as well as the Trump campaign are hoping no one will be smart enough to notice the difference. Thankfully, I’m not one of them.
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October 4th, 2016 at 9:55 am
Q: What do Donald Trump and a Jack-o-Lantern have in common?
A: They’re both orange and empty and scary and should be thrown out in early November!
/SB
October 4th, 2016 at 11:10 am
Yahoo Inc last year secretly built a custom software program to search all of its customers’ incoming emails for specific information provided by U.S. intelligence officials, according to people familiar with the matter.
The company complied with a classified U.S. government directive, scanning hundreds of millions of Yahoo Mail accounts at the behest of the National Security Agency or FBI, said two former employees and a third person apprised of the events.
Some surveillance experts said this represents the first case to surface of a U.S. Internet company agreeing to a spy agency’s demand by searching all arriving messages, as opposed to examining stored messages or scanning a small number of accounts in real time.
October 4th, 2016 at 11:14 am
My apologies in advance for forgetting to list the source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yahoo-nsa-exclusive-idUSKCN1241YT
October 4th, 2016 at 12:20 pm
“If I speak up, I’m a shrill nag. If my weight fluctuates at all, I’m a gross, inconvenient fatty. If my husband cheats, it’s on me. If I try to defend or salvage my marriage, I’m a stupid dupe. Men like Trump and Giuliani have advanced ideas like these so the women in their lives will be cowed, thin and compliant, while if they err, they’re swashbuckling and strategic. The idea that we should trust men who hate us in private to protect us in the public sphere is the ultimate insult to our intelligence.”
October 4th, 2016 at 4:34 pm
Justice Clarence Thomas, the second black man to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court, is practically absent from the new National Museum of African American History and Culture.
Anita Hill, the woman who accused Thomas of sexual harassment, however, is given prominent billing in the museum.
The new Smithsonian, which opened in September, gives Hill pride of place in an exhibit on blacks in the 1990s. The exhibit features testimonies trumpeting her courage and the surge of women’s activism that ensued, while making only peripheral reference to the nation’s second black Supreme Court justice.
There is no showcase of Thomas’s own life and career, which ran its own harsh gauntlet of racial discrimination.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/03/clarence-thomas-is-conspicuously-absent-in-the-new-black-history-smithsonian/#ixzz4MA8TR1QJ
October 4th, 2016 at 9:36 pm
What’s that? The GOP announced more than 30 minutes *BEFORE* the VPOTUS debate starts that Mike Pence won the debate? That’s brilliant! Just like Trump losing almost ONE Billion Dollars in one single year and not having to pay taxes for the next 20 years! Not just Brilliant, but Mr. Trump says that makes him smart!
October 4th, 2016 at 10:05 pm
Fantastic analysis Michelle. I couldn’t have said it that way because I don’t have your gift. But now that you have said it, I can use it. My low life husband cheated on me with one of my girlfriends.
I hated the slut. We were best friends, did everything together. Her boyfriend flirted with me several times. I ALWAYS put him in his place. I even told her he was just too friendly.
Hilary had no requirement to treat a woman who knew her husband was married BEFORE she accepted his advances or she went after him. What woman on this planet will treat the woman who she catches cheating with her husband with gentle hands. The tramp should consider herself lucky that Hilary didn’t personally kick her ass.
October 4th, 2016 at 10:06 pm
Social Butterfly#1, LOL.
October 4th, 2016 at 10:09 pm
Did you see the VP debates. The white boy has declared Pence the winner because get this he was the calmer of the two. As usual the white boy shows that truth and honesty have much less value than image.
Now you understand why the republicans appeal to them. They lie, and while the white boy knows that the party is lying they get points and support because they lie with style.
October 4th, 2016 at 10:11 pm
Thanks Banns#3, you have affirmed my belief that these companies will do anything as long as their customers are unaware.
October 5th, 2016 at 5:59 am
RNC was Ready to Say Mike Pence was the Winner when the Debate had not even happened yet. Without even having Watched the Debate at all. That’s F__cked up! -Post- “It was a hard-fought battle between two tough adversaries, but when all was said and done, Mike Pence emerged as the clear winner of Tuesday night’s vice presidential debate”, according to the Republican National Committee well before it started.
Wait, what?
A blog posted on the party’s website, which was presumably set to publish once the debate was over without even having saw it, declared that “the consensus was clear after the dust settled, Mike Pence was the clear winner of the debate.” If you ask me the RNC is going to be the loser instead for doing this. Big Time! I don’t buy that it was a accident.
October 5th, 2016 at 7:10 am
David#11, The RNC has plenty of help because the white mind operates different from the rest of us. To most of them it is more about perception than truth. Notice how On Matthews the host of “Hard Ball with Chris Mathews” was quick to give the win to Pence even though he admitted that Pence was lying when he repeated said that Trump didn’t say what trump actually said on tape.
It is just further proof that this race has problems with moral judgements. Style, how well you tell the lie is more important than someone who interrupts you in the middle of telling that lie to call you out on it.
Now you understand why the GOP gets away with flat out lying about Obama. They know if they smile and act “civil” while they are accusing you of the heinous deeds, it’s okay with the media because they won’t interrupt to say “that’s a lie” when it is obvious it is a lie because they would be rude to the liar.
Go figure white morals, and psyche. Most are the Anti-Christ preaching the gospel all the while sinning and grinning.
October 5th, 2016 at 7:13 am
David#11, I watched the debate this white girl saw one man lying almost on every topic and the other so upset that the moderator didn’t call him on it that he did.
It was frustrating later to see that an CNN and ORC poll said that the liar won because he was more civil. Sick reasoning by a “basket of deplorables.”
October 5th, 2016 at 7:16 am
David@11, I agree with you by the reasoning of the polls I have seen this morning those same polls would have agreed with the nazis who smiled and calmly put my relatives on trains to be murdered because they behaved like “gentlemen.”
The MSM in America is run by idiots.
October 5th, 2016 at 7:24 am
David#11, Of course they would. They can lie and they know the MSM doesn’t have the moral courage to call them out on it. No one has called SCOTUS out loud enough for agreeing that my relatives could be deprived of their property and liberty and locked up simply because of their race.
It was done by “polite” white people. My parents were told they were being locked up to protect them from the rage of americans upset because of Pearl Harbor. No one locked up Italians or Germans. Why?
Because they were white. Same here. When Pence was asked a question he didn’t bother answering it he just switched to another topic and calmly gave a reply. That tactic rightfully up set Tim Kaine. He wanted to debate the issues, but to do that the other person has to answer the questions put to him so there can be a debate.
October 5th, 2016 at 7:26 am
“…that Mexican thing again …”. SMH
October 5th, 2016 at 7:26 am
David#11, Great scoop!. Trumps people were heard telling his supporters to go to the “Drudge” report and say that they believe trump won the debate between Hilary and trump. Yet, it wasn’t a big thing reported by the MSM.
You can bet this one won’t be either.
October 5th, 2016 at 7:30 am
Kaine’s “obnoxious” performance was driven by his losing his patience with a LSOS who would not answer the questions put to him.
I completely understand and the false equivalency of saying that was the same thing trump did when he interrupted to TELL LIES is bullshit.
October 5th, 2016 at 7:31 am
Alycedale#12, this white man has to agree. What is wrong with my race that makes them think demeanor is more important than the truth?
October 5th, 2016 at 7:33 am
I like the quote by Greg Gutfeld, “Pence looks like a president. Keane looks like your band teacher”
Yeah, if you want a LSOS for your POTUS. I want someone who tells me the truth. Obviously on of those deplorables.
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