Cover Up, You’re Showing Too Much
Posted by Michelle Moquin on August 29th, 2012
Good morning!
We can thank STARK for giving the power to corporate America to avoid class action lawsuits, allowing them to do anything they chose. This is just one example. Both instances happening to women.
Airline Dress Codes Ban Cleavage, Shirts With Expletives
DALLAS — Airlines give many reasons for refusing to let you board, but none stir as much debate as this: How you’re dressed.
A woman flying from Las Vegas on Southwest this spring says she was confronted by an airline employee for showing too much cleavage. In another recent case, an American Airlines pilot lectured a passenger because her T-shirt bore a four-letter expletive. She was allowed to keep flying after draping a shawl over the shirt.
Both women told their stories to sympathetic bloggers, and the debate over what you can wear in the air went viral.
It’s not always clear what’s appropriate. Airlines don’t publish dress codes. There are no rules that spell out the highest hemline or the lowest neckline allowed. That can leave passengers guessing how far to push fashion boundaries. Every once in a while the airline says: Not that far.
“It’s like any service business. If you run a family restaurant and somebody is swearing, you kindly ask them to leave,” says Kenneth Quinn, an aviation lawyer and former chief counsel at the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.
The American Airlines passenger, who declined to be interviewed by The Associated Press, works for an abortion provider. Supporters suggested that she was singled out because her T-shirt had a pro-choice slogan.
A spokesman for American says the passenger was asked to cover up “because of the F-word on the T-shirt.” He says that the airline isn’t taking sides in the abortion debate.
Last week, Arijit Guha, a graduate student at Arizona State University, was barred from a Delta flight in Buffalo, N.Y., because of a T-shirt that mocked federal security agents and included the words, “Terrists gonna kill us all.” He says the misspelled shirt was satirical and he wore it to protest what he considers racial profiling.
“I thought it was a very American idea to speak up and dissent when you think people’s rights are being violated,” Guha says. The pilot thought it scared other passengers.
American and Delta are within their rights to make the passengers change shirts even if messages are political, says Joe Larsen, a First Amendment lawyer from Houston who has defended many media companies.
The First Amendment prohibits government from limiting a person’s free-speech rights, but it doesn’t apply to rules set by private companies, Larsen says. He notes that government security screeners didn’t challenge Guha; private Delta employees did.
In short, since airlines and their planes are private property and not a public space like the courthouse steps, crews can tell you what to wear.
In the early years of jet travel, passengers dressed up and confrontations over clothing were unimaginable. They’re still rare – there aren’t any precise numbers – but when showdowns happen, they gain more attention as aggrieved passengers complain on the Internet about airline clothing cops. It’s unwelcome publicity for airlines, which already rate near the bottom of all industries when it comes to customer satisfaction.
Critics complain that airlines enforce clothing standards inconsistently. The lack of clear rules leaves decisions to the judgment of individual airline employees.
Last year, a passenger was pulled off a US Airways jet and arrested at San Francisco International Airport after airline employees say he refused to pull up his low-hanging pants. The local prosecutor declined to file charges against Deshon Marman, a University of New Mexico football player.
Marman’s lawyer complained that the same airline repeatedly allowed a middle-age man to travel wearing women’s underwear and not much else.
“You can’t let someone repugnant like that (the cross-dresser) on the plane and single out this kid because he’s black, wearing dreadlocks, and had two or three inches of his underwear showing,” says the lawyer, Joseph D. O’Sullivan. “They can’t arrest him for what someone perceives to be inappropriate attire.”
US Airways spokesman John McDonald says no passengers complained about the cross-dresser until his photo in women’s underwear circulated on the Internet after the Marman incident. He says the airline doesn’t have a dress code but that employees may talk to a passenger if other people might be offended by the way he’s dressed.
“It’s not an issue of a dress code, it’s one of disruption,” like watching pornography within sight of other passengers, McDonald says.
An informal survey of passengers at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport found much support for limits on clothing.
“Curse words on shirts always bother me,” says John Gordon, who just graduated from film school in Florida and was dressed in khaki shorts and a T-shirt. “It’s an unspoken rule that when you go out in public, you should be respectful.”
But Leigh Ann Epperson, a corporate lawyer who had just flown in from Tokyo, says she wouldn’t be bothered if another passenger’s shirt bore the F-word.
“If people are paying the price for their tickets, they should be able to wear what they want,” says Epperson, who wore a black sweater over a low-cut blouse, black slacks and wedge-type heels.
Airlines say they refund the passenger’s fare if they deny boarding for inappropriate attire.
Clashes over clothing and other flash points seem to be increasing, says Alexander Anolik, a travel-law attorney in Tiburon, Calif. He blames an unhappy mix of airline employees who feel underpaid and unloved, and passengers who are stressed out and angry over extra fees on everything from checking a bag to scoring an aisle seat.
Anolik says that passengers should obey requests from airline employees. If passengers don’t, they could be accused of interfering with a flight crew – a federal crime. He says passengers should wait until they’re off the plane to file complaints with the airline, the U.S. Department of Transportation or in small-claims court.
“They have this omnipotent power,” Anolik says of flight crews. “You shouldn’t argue your case while you’re on the airplane. You’re in a no-win scenario – you will be arrested.”
*****
Readers: Are you just noticing that a lot of this crap is coming from the state of Texas?
Zen Lill: I would’ve liked to have read that article. That is absurd. Thanks for the call last night. I was out with a girlfriend for dinner. I’ll try you tonight.
Ruth,Ts: Happy to hear you are pleased. All is noted. No trouble on my end. I HOPE all goes well on yours. I look forward to your e-mail. Love & hugs to you, Harris, the girls, and the twins.
Got to run now – blog me.
Lastly, greed over a great story is surfacing from my “loyal”(?) readers. With all this back and forth about who owns what, that appears on my blog, let me reiterate that all material posted on my blog becomes the sole property of my blog. If you want to reserve any proprietary rights don’t post it to my blog. I will prominently display this caveat on my blog from now on to remind those who may have forgotten this notice.
Gratefully your blog host,
michelle
Aka BABE: We all know what this means by now :)
If you love my blog and my writes, please make a donation via PayPal, credit card, or e-check, please click the “Donate” button below. (Please only donations from those readers within the United States. – International readers please see my “Donate” page)
August 29th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Business as usual for the GOP:
The Republican National Convention ejected two attendees for throwing peanuts at a Black CNN camerawoman and saying, “that is how we feed the animals.” Police immediately removed the two attendees, and officials with the Republican National Convention quickly distanced themselves from the incident.
“Two attendees tonight exhibited deplorable behavior,” the statement read. “Their conduct was inexcusable and unacceptable. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.”
The incident was witnessed by several media members, including MSNBC and Current Host David Shuster. Shuster tweeted about the incident
———–
You vote GOP, you are sanctioning this kind of behavior. It’s been their rhetoric all along. You know this is not an isolated incident. They just got caught.
August 29th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
HI Mischa, for you and everyone here: http://dailycurrant.com/2012/08/26/todd-akin-claims-breastmilk-cures-homosexuality/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=todd-akin-claims-breastmilk-cures-homosexuality
As far as dressing to fly, you know…I’m all for anyone doing whatever they want but seriously I don’t want to look at you dressed the way you look in the privacy of your own home. Have some public decorum, Americans dress like slobs and I hate it. You don’t have to dress UP but really, tits out, F word t-shirts (once saw a woman at LA Zoo, a mostly kid venue with a t-shirt in huge letters ‘FUCK THE LAKERS’ uh, yeah, ok…) and all that, could you at least consider others? Maybe your dude wants your rack hanging out to the edge of your nipple but I don’t, it doesn’t gross me out, it just lacks class (there I said it) – have some class in the way you dress.
& inflammatory statements on a t-shirt when getting on a plane, well…take your chances, I remember when I lived in SG, a family was detained bc they overheard the word ‘bomb’ when the family passed through security – so (say it) or wear it at your own risk, it does scare some people and you can argue whether they’re being too sensitive but the fact is: they can detain and inconvenience YOU in that moment, and YOU can take it up with someone else later at your own INconvenience. So, awareness of others sensibilities is not necessarily a bad thing, not to me…
I’m ok with it if you are, though it kind of tells peeps a little about your issues with authority figures LOL : ) word.
Luv, Zen Lill
August 29th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
One of the most damaging messages LGBT youth can receive is that there is something wrong with them, and that they needed to be fixed or changed. We know from our recent youth survey that a top concern for LGBT youth is a lack of acceptance. In California, 89 percent of youth report hearing negative things about being LGBT – with 63 percent hearing those messages from elected officials.
A bill in California, SB 1172, would prohibit therapists from harming youth by subjecting them to these dangerous practices that purport to change one’s sexual orientation. But Governor Brown’s support is critical and we need your help now.
Leading medical organizations – including the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association – all agree that reparative therapy can have harmful consequences on those who undergo such “treatments.”
Sincerely,
Chad Griffin
President
August 29th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
The Right and the GOP have reached an agreement that if they can suppress or steal 19% of the vote they can gain the White House with control of both Houses.
The plan has been okayed and they are pursuing it with gusto!
Mike, TM
August 29th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
CNN has been hiding a racist incident that happened to a black female CNN camerawoman. He was accosted by some white members of who called her a nigger and told her to take her black ass back to Africa. Then they threw nuts at her and said this is how we feed he animals now. But if your ass is still here after the election we have more than enough trees to solve the problem.
http://politic365.com/2012/08/29/this-is-how-we-feed-animals-two-ejected-from-gop-convention-after-racist-incident/
She was admonished not to repeat what was said to her with threats of firing or less attractive assignments.
David Shuster was close enough to hear some of it and he rushed to tweet what he heard.
My sister, her husband and my husband tried to get between the crazy race baiting bastards. She broke down into tears when one woman pushed my sister aside and spit in her face saying she wish she could do it to Obama and his sub human dog bitch kids.
A small crowd moved between David Shuster and began calling her racists names before guards rushed over and interjected themselves between the camerawoman and the crazies.
Lucy
August 29th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Those of you who could not make the meeting, but heard that it was part of our miscalculation that caused the extra damage by Isaac should know that that is just not true.
The humans are responsible because they allowed their oil exploration companies to destroy the estuaries in search of and for the exploration of oil. Hence there is nothing to slow down hurricanes or to break them up.
So now when they approach they hop straight on to land and linger over it dumping water. It is not our responsibility to account for the destruction of their natural habitat by humans when we act to account for the anomalies caused by the absence of Tsarme.
This storm was created to dump water on the parched land north of the gulf states. It will do that. The fact that the gulf states are suffering much more than they should have is of no concern to us because those people did nothing to stop their governmental representatives from selling out to the big money interests that exploited and destroyed the natural barriers to the type of destruction they experienced.
We will not be deterred from similar actions because of human destruction of their natural habitats.
116k//
August 29th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Wolf Blizter on CNN touched on the subject and then told his black co-anchor to let’s move on.
CNN is heading full speed ahead towards being like fox. They are watching the dollar signs and they know that if you hook the stupid you got viewers for life.
The thinking viewer holds the station to a different and more demanding standard than the stupid. All the stupid requires is that you continue to tell them what they already believe.
Erica
August 29th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Olympia Snowe is on record telling Romney to lie to women to get elected. I wonder why she feels that she has to tell them that. The polls say that roughly the same percent of white women as white men are voting color.
The polls say that 45% of white women intend to vote for this party despite the fact that they won’t make any exceptions for an abortion, including the death of the mother.
August 29th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
You nigger lovers are bending over backward to make this a big deal. So a few white people got a little too pasted and acted out their true feelings. I remember when niggers knew their place.
This political correct bullshit is ridiculous. So the black bitch got few peanut tossed into her face. She’s seen worst. She’s in our house. Let’s get on with the convention. Me I’m dying to Paul Ryan.
Dobson
August 29th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I can guarantee you that if this happened to a white woman working with CNN it would have been highlighted 24/7 and they would have been demanding an explanation. But she’s black so the attitude is it’s expected and accepted that some white people don’t like OTWs.
OTWs are expected to make allowances for the racist behavior whites bring their way because whites feel entitled to put OTWs in their “place.”
Gerri
August 29th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Why are we so surprised – thetea party is racist but I blame black folks for thinking whites will Ever except us as equals – They Won’t!
August 29th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
CNN may say that they have no further comment about this hateful, racist incident, BUT the black woman should certainly tell other media about it, IF Wolf Blitzer, who is leading the CNN team there in Tampa, won’t do or say anything about the mistreatment of one of our black women.
So what are you waiting for Brother Boyce, Roland Martin, Ed Gordon and BET, Al Sharpton, and others? But the woman, if she has any respect for herself, certainly ought to speak out loudly about this.
And if need be, DAMN CNN !!! Now, let’s see if the black media, and civil rights leaders are going to go to her rescue.
Rev. George Brooks
August 29th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Don’t expect to hear from the camerawoman. I have heard that she has been given a very sizable cash settlement to shut the fuck up.
There are billionaires here and they pay cash.
August 29th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
The racist party has spoken again:
Yahoo DC bureau chief fired after he’s heard on RNC livestream saying Romney is ‘happy to have a party with black people drowning.
David Chalian’s anti-Romney remarks overheard during live webcast of Republican National Convention in Florida.
Comments referred to Hurricane Isaac, which is battering neighbouring states.
Yahoo sacked the political reporter this afternoon and apologised to the Romney campaign.
—–
RNC = Racists’ National Committee
August 29th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
More RNC BS,
Chalian is actually anti-Romney and no doubt just speaking the truth. But he was canned in the interest of “fair reporting.”
Cleo
August 29th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Mike, TM, thanks for the inside scoop. This is NOT good news at.all. – ZL
August 29th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Question for Americans: How can you TRUST that you will have a different result when Romney/Ryan are proposing IDENTICAL policies that got US here?
ROMNEY/RYAN = SAME POLICIES, DIFFERENT MESSENGERS.
August 29th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I got this from a HP comment. I checked it out you can too if you want the truth, not lies from Paul Ryan.
FACTS TO CLEAR UP THE BS ABOUT JOBS!
The economy was in “FREE FALL” as Bush was leaving!
The American people were losing 8OO,OOO+ JOBS/Month
6,OOO,OOO JOBS were lost In just 15 months under BUSH
Almost 3 Straight Years the economy and JOBS have been growing
4,OOO,OOO+ JOBS ADDED in 27 Months
Obama Policies have historically helped the middle class; education, manufacturing, science and research, Medicare, debt reduction, tax rates, health care, consumer protection, college aid, energy.
+4,OOO,OOO OBAMA JOB ADDITIONS IN 2010 TO 2012
- 6,OOO,OOO BUSH CONSERVATIVE JOB L0SS CREMATION IN 2008 & 2009
_____________________
JUST THE FACTS! Bureau of Labor Statistics
1,O64,OOO JOBS ADDED IN 7 Months IN 2012 OBAMA ERA
1,84O,OOO JOBS ADDED IN 2011 OBAMA ERA
1,O27,OOO JOBS ADDED IN 2010 OBAMA ERA
4,OOO,OOO+ JOBS ADDED IN 30 MONTHS – OBAMA SUMMARY
______________
-3,6O3,OOO JOBS LOST in 2008 BUSH ERA
-2,341,OOO JOBS LOST in 1st QUARTER 2009 BUSH ERA!
6,OOO,OOO JOBS LOST IN 15 MONTHS – BUSH
________________________
BUSH DEPRESSl0N SEEPS IN BlG TlME FEBRUARY 2008 and GROWS W0RSE
8OO,OOO+ JOB LOSSES/MONTH. 3OO,OOO AVERAGE 2008 BUSH JOB LOSE
+ 41,OOO Jan 08
- 84,OOO FEB 08
- 95,OOO MAR 08
-208,OOO APR 08
-190,OOO MAY 08
-198,OOO JUNE 08
-210,OOO JULY 08
-274,OOO AUG 08
-432,OOO SEPT 08
-489,OOO OCT 08
-803,OOO NOV 08 BUSH DECAY OF J0BS
-661,OOO DEC 08 BUSH DECAY OF J0BS
-818,OOO Jan 09 BUSH DECAY OF J0BS
-724,OOO Feb 09
-799,OOO Mar 09 – Stimulus passed
-692,OOO APR 09 – Stimulus still not in effect
BUSH’S 8OO,OOO+ L0ST JOB/MONTH MAKES
OBAMA’S 3 YEAR OF $4,OOO,OOO MORE JOBS
Performance A SU*PER-ST*AR’S ACHlEVEMENT!
+275,OOO Jan 2012
+259,OOO Feb 2012
+143,OOO Mar 2012
+ 68,OOO April 2012
+ 87,OOO May 2012 LOOKS FANTASTIC!
+ 64,OOO Jun 2012 LOOKS FANTASTIC!
+163,OOO July 2012 LOOKS FANTASTIC!
August 29th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
I wonder why so many pundits say the speech was misleading. “Misleading?” THEY ARE LIES spoken by LIARS!!
Meanwhile, over at the Faux News website, not a single mention of blatant lies in the Ryan speech…but hey they made sure to mention that he was a bow-hunter in their article, so I guess that’s one fact they got right.
August 29th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Apparently the liberal “lash out blindly” talking point is “lie”.
Not one person can name or verify what the lies are, They just see Ryan crushing the fraud that the Obama administration is and feel the need to say something.
Bitterness defines the failed liberal movement.
I kinda dig it,
August 29th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Apparently the Liberals all simultaneously raided the nations medical marijuana stores tonight~~~ They are hearing and seeing things as instructed by David Axelrod — notify your local clinics and emergency rooms!!!
August 29th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
AT, you asked for one of Ryan’s lies to be highlighted. Here is one.
In the beginning, Paul Ryan said…
“Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said, ‘I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.’ That’s what he said in 2008.”
“In fact, Obama made no such promise and the plant halted production in December 2008, when President George W. Bush was in office,”
…it’s an attack Ryan has used before, and one that the Detroit News has called inaccurate:
Detroit News reporter David Sherpardson wrote earlier this month. “Obama did speak at the plant in February 2008, and suggested that a government partnership with automakers could keep the plant open, but made no promises as Ryan suggested.”
In the end, Paul Ryan is exposed as being a bigger liar than ever.
>>> A footnote to the Romney/Ryan campaign…
Romney pollster Neil Newhouse, defending blatantly false ads claiming President Obama removed work requirements from welfare, said,
“We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.”
August 29th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Ryan piled on the lies so high that it would take a Herculean effort to document it all and the patience of a saint to read through the documentation.
The auto plant closing distortion has already been well documented — blaming Obama for a closing that took place during Bush’s presidency! Every bit as egregious was Ryan’s effort to hang the reduction of our credit rating on Obama because “it took place on his watch.” Yes, there was such a reduction — because with the Congressional leadership of Ryan himself, the House elected to stall on voting for a debt limit increase.
And, no, voting for a debt limit increase is NOT voting to increase the debt. It is, rather, voting to cover the debt already incurred.
By recklessly playing games with the debt limit increase and, thereby, putting the full faith and credit of the U.S. at peril, the House virtually forced the rating agencies to downgrade our credit rating BECAUSE WE WERE THREATENING NOT TO HONOR IT BY BALKING ON RAISING THE DEBT LIMIT.
Does Ryan have NO sense of honor whatsoever?. It’s a child’s trick — to create havoc and then to point to the other guy when it comes time to take the blame.
What could Obama have done to avert that credit rating downgrade? Not a thing. It was engineered by Ryan himself and if there is anything that the House made abundantly clear, it’s this: Obama is not the boss of them.
August 29th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Does the truth mean anything to these people. Folks this is the republican way, Win at ‘ANY’ cost.. Lie when you damm well please and whenever it damm well suites you.. Freaking lying reprobate.. And he did it with a straight face……. Lol
August 29th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
The lying and distortion of this tag team are off the charts. Is it possible America could be this gullible?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Ryan did’nt mention how much he hates women and how he was going to do nothing for them. —- . I read somewhere that Terroist’s treat their Women better than Republican men do their’s. What does that tell you. ……….
August 30th, 2012 at 12:10 am
I watched the MSNBC crew discuss Ryan’s speech. Why didn’t they emphasize how it was full of lies rather than exclaim how great the speech of Ryan.
Is the white world so hypocritical and so dishonest that they cannot distinguish between great and a great liar. So if a white man gets up and lies over and over it doesn’t matter as long as it roused the crowd. It is a great speech to whites regardless of the truthfulness of the content.
I am so embarrassed to be white. Thank God I am a white woman not a white man.
Watching pundits from all the News Networks (excluding Fox News Network, which ain’t a News Network) critique and analyze what Ryan had to say during his speech, as if what he said was factual, left me dumbfounded.
Am I wrong in thinking that the major aspect of Ryan’s speech was the fact that a person who hopes to be Vice President of the United States stood on the stage of the RNC and told one lie after another.
There was a time when Journalist would be yelling “stop the presses” in order to get the story out of the magnitude of a potential V.P. giving a speech full of inaccuracies.
He is the best young conservative of a long time, said Ed of MSNBC while he praised his speech. Lying, voter suppression, obfuscation, trickery, racism, bigotry, misogyny …
I mean, come on peeps.. It’s what Republicons do, isn’t it? I know you’re not surprised.
Rachel says “he can spin the story.” Rachel he was NOT spinning the story, he was lying about the story.
Paige.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Do we really want to become another pre war Germany again, where facts and truth are less important than power and money?
August 30th, 2012 at 12:13 am
Oh them pesky fact-checkers! It’s like a businessman saying he could run a great operation if it wasn’t for those irritating customers making life so difficult.
But Republican voters just seem to love the lies… as long as the rhetoric sounds right and fits in with the beliefs they’re desperate to maintain, then the facts are just a petty annoyance to be disregarded.
There really is a vile and frightening inevitability about this election’s outcome… ignorance actually could still win the day. At which point America’s global credibility will be destroyed for decades to come.
August 30th, 2012 at 12:23 am
Why are you people so concerned about the lies being told to this crowd? I have lived with people just like them all my life.
They are not interested in the truth only whatever will confirm their racist beliefs. My great uncle used to sit around the Thanksgiving table year after year for decades telling us the same stories about how he and his white division went around telling the europeans that the nigger soldiers had tails.
I confess that I enjoyed those tales until I was forced to attend an integrated school and I made friends with a few black kids. To my surprise they were human beings just like me. I just couldn’t laugh at Uncle Phillip’s cruel lies any more.
Nevertheless, most of the family continues to find his stories the high point of the family dinner. They bring their young children and introduce them to the lies.
All I’m saying is they don’t care about the truth. They are only interested in getting rid of Obama because he is black. Who takes his place is unimportant as long as he is white and male.
Molly
September 13th, 2012 at 8:19 am
These are really great ideas in on the topic
of blogging. You have touched some good things here.
Any way keep up wrinting.