Rice Same Same As Rice?
Posted by Michelle Moquin on November 16th, 2012
Good morning
Bertha: This one’s for you:
Soledad O’Brien Grills Rep. Joe Heck On Susan Rice (VIDEO)
Soledad O’Brien’s interview with Rep. Joe Heck on Thursday morning grew somewhat awkward when she asked the congressman to repeat himself over and over again.
O’Brien asked Heck what he would like to learn from Gen. David Petraeus when he testifies before a congressional hearing on the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. She then asked him if he would prevent Ambassador Susan Rice’s confirmation if the president attempted to nominate her for secretary of state.
“The fact is you can’t put somebody out as the face of the issue on all the Sunday morning talk shows, and then turn around weeks later and say she knew nothing about the incident and had nothing to do with it. That’s just plainly wrong,” he said.
O’Brien likened the situation with Rice to Condoleezza Rice when she said that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. “If you use that measurement…and then later you determine that the information was wrong, isn’t that exactly analogous to what happened with Condoleezza Rice?”
“I don’t believe so, because here we had a situation where the information was wrong, not coming back and saying the person had nothing to do with the situation. I mean Condy Rice was in a position to be able to be the face, and the information was wrong. But here we had wrong information, and then weeks later, we have the administration coming back and saying, ‘Well this person had nothing to do with the situation,’” Heck said.
O’Brien said she would like to go through his response more slowly. When Heck tried to clarify, O’Brien cut him off and said, “You’ve lost me completely. Let’s back up again. I’m sorry, forgive me. But you’ve lost me.”
“So in both cases,” O’Brien said, “you have someone who says, ‘We had intelligence. The intelligence is wrong. What I said is wrong because the intelligence was wrong.’ How is this not analogous?”
Heck attempted to clarify once again but O’Brien cut him off, asking fellow panelist Charles Blow to help her. “I’m not trying to be facetious. I’m trying to figure out what he’s saying,” she said.
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Readers: What he is trying to say is that Rice was wrong because the intelligence info was wrong which she was unaware of whereas, Rice was wrong because the intelligence info was wrong which she was aware of. So therefore Rice was wrong, and Rice was wrong, but Rice was less wrong because she was more wrong whereas Rice was wrong, but more wrong because she was less wrong. Got it?
Anywho, I really enjoyed the comments from the past two days. You readers are so savvy and in touch.
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November 16th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
The List OF 75 US Senators Who Voted To Let 30,000 Drones Shoot Americans In The Streets
February 13, 2012
Source: Senate.gov
The House and Senate voted for the passage of the FAA bill that funds 30,000 drones to surveil Americans knowing that the majority are to be armed initially with shotgun tasers. Two Americans a week die from tasers so these are lethal weapons. But these drones can easily be equipped with machine guns and rockets. I decided to only report the Senate vote because the bill included strong anti-union sections that forced House Democrats to vote against the overall bill. A quick glance of the Senate No votes revealed one staunch Zionist from a strong union state who probably would have voted for the bill if it were a stand alone measure without the union bashing.
Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Mark Begich (D-AK)
Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
John Boozman (R-AR)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Scott Brown (R-MA)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Dan Coats (R-IN)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Chris Coons (D-DE)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Mike Enzi (R-WY)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Charles Grassley (R-IA)
Kay Hagan (D-NC)
Dean Heller (R-NV)
John Hoeven (R-ND)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Dan Inouye (D-HI)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Mike Johanns (R-NE)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
John Kerry (D-MA)
Herbert Kohl (D-WI)
Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Joe Lieberman (ID-CT)
Dick Lugar (R-IN)
Joe Manchin (D-WV)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Rob Portman (R-OH)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
John Reed (D-RI)
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Jon Tester (D-MT)
John Thune (R-SD)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Mark Udall (D-CO)
Tom Udall (D-NM)
Mark Warner (D-VA)
Jim Webb (D-VA)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
November 16th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Zen Lill, on your question about Petraeus. This is not the man the Right is portraying him to be. He is a deeply ambitious man. He aligned himself with the republican party to get Obama. He tried to do that during Obama’s first run for president.
When Obama won, he used his position to pressure Obama to do things, militarily, he didn’t want to do. He aided the Right in embarrassing the President. That pissed Anonz off. Obama kept him at bay. He wanted to cash Petraeus’s check.
The Right was grooming Petraeus for a run in 2016 for the WH. Anonz would not stand for that because Petraeus is an easily manipulated nitwit. The 1% would love to have someone like him in office, but since he would not be working for that part of the 1% Anonz controls, he was a threat.
Notice how you are told how “revered” Petraeus is by “everyone.” When in fact it is widely known by those in the military that Petraeus is a cutthroat, self-promoting commander. Known by his peers as one who leads a “dead dog” on your doorstep.
That means if he takes over a command after you, he will not be content to do a better job, he will make sure everyone know how terrible a job you did so that his work looks better.
He bragged that he would use his position at the CIA to help the Right dominate the political spectrum for decades. Anonz ate his lunch. He chose sex as it would allow Obama to accept his resignation while praising his service to the nation.
But it would leave a stain that could be reopened later when more was exposed about how easily he was duped by Paula Broadwell. He knew that he would not vet the woman. If he had done even a casual inspection of her credentials, he would have discovered that she was a plant. Most of her credentials were padded to get his attention.
It’s a good thing he resigned, if China or another enemy nation had sent a mole after him it would have been as easy to dupe the idiot.
Imagine being the head of the most powerful information gathering apparatus in human history and allowing a woman who made up her credentials to get you to approve a security clearance to do what she did. You haven’t heard what other benefits he gave her in that department. Nor have you heard how Petraeus and the other Generals on Anonz’s list were used by women.
You have not heard the real access gained because of that idiot’s little head over ruling his big one. The Right is trying to protect him. The man now heading the CIA despised the idiot because he knew that he wasn’t qualified to head the CIA.
Obama put him there at the suggestion of Anonz because they needed a place to set up the Right Wings mole. He never was a military man loyal to the country and the president of that country. He was first and foremost for Petraeus, and secondly BAPF by the Right.
Since the Right was promising him money, power and the presidency, he was All In to sabotaging whatever he could to make the Democrats look bad.
He and the Right felt he could act with impunity because of his manufactured lofty reputation. But the idiot was wrong there too. Long after President Obama has settled into retirement, the 1% will still be vying for total control over the US and the world economy.
This round belongs to Anonz.
Mike,TM
November 16th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
GOOD AFTERNOON TO EVERYONE!
To start you off today, here is the democratically elected congressional representative from the 8th district of California, Nancy Pelosi, reminding everyone that she is embarrassingly behind in her constitutional law studies.
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Talk to you on Monday,
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November 16th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Howie, I hope you are doing okay. I have been called up to active duty here in Israel because of the shelling we are receiving here in Israel.
I hope you will go back to talking to the those in Gaza to cooperate with us. I am very afraid to be a part of an invasion into the Gaza Strip. I don’t want to kill or even shoot anyone.
Chana
November 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Mike, TM, you have made some good points. There are plenty of candidates that can run the CIA as good if not better than Petraeus. I agree Michael Morell is an excellent replacement for Petraeus. There is certainly no love lost between those two, but I prefer John Brennan.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Fine post Mike, TM. I would be interested in your take on Fareed Zakaria. He is another one time fair minded man who has been BAPF. Now his job is to find fault with every foreign policy decision that Obama makes.
Anonz it is rumored let him know that he is being watched. But like Petraeus he thinks his billionaire masters can protect him while enriching him.
If he continues to work to malign Obama’s foreign policy position without merit, he will again make it into Anonz’s crosshairs.
Robert, RT
November 16th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Thank you for the highlights of this story, MikeTM, I was curious how he could’ve allowed himself to be matahari’d like that, he’s a bigger fool than I thought, being in his position and not even checking into her background, the little head was doing the thinking, indeed!
…and a thank you to Anonz as well…such clever tactics and positioning, well planned and executed though I’m quite sure he doesn’t need me to tell him that.
Now, if there’s a way to get all the bummed out Christian repugs to stop posting graphs of how much more in taxes they’re going to pay if they make over 108K…hmmm, I’m seriously thinking of posting a bible verse I recall that sounds a whole lot more charitable than they do and wouldn’t it be nice if the GOP would work to make it work instead of trying to discredit President Obama. Their ‘Dem tax and spend’ talking point is sounding like whining already…
Luv, Zen Lill