Let’s not take that victory lap just yet
Posted by Michelle Moquin on September 29th, 2016
Good morning!
Whether you like him or not, let me begin by quoting two tweets by Michael Moore in response to the debate, because his thoughts are my sentiments exactly:
“Pro-Hillary gloaters doing end-zone dance again when still on 50-yard line. U MUST get it in your head TRUMP IS GONNA WIN and act accordingly.”
“Bottom line: Did YOU do anything today 2 get Hillary Elected? If not, she lost. If u spent today relieved & smug about her victory, she lost”
I haven’t followed Moore in awhile but I was curious to read what he’s been saying about Trump. As much as I am a big fan of Keith Olbermann and his recent rants (brilliant) about Trump, I’ve had a revelation when it comes to what’s happening in our country regarding this election.
We can keep pointing out Trump’s characteristics (serial liar, misogynist, xenophobe, racist, +++!); it’s easy to do and Olbermann is excellent at laying them all out for us. However, in my opinion as I posted in yesterday’s blog, truth, racism, lack of qualifications etc., are not going to stop people who are strong Trump supporters from voting for Trump. Whites are going to vote color in spite of Trump’s massive characteristic flaws…and because of that their minds are not going to change no matter how much time and energy we expend showing people just how bad Trump is and telling voters to fact check his endless lies.
Believe it or not, this gives me a bit of relief. Not in “Hillary is going to win, I’m going to rest on my laurels” relief. No, my relief is that I don’t have to be exasperated anymore trying to understand why people are voting for Trump when he is a _______ , _______, ______!! I am crystal clear. Their reasons for voting for him are not based on logic, or what he does or doesn’t do.
I read this on Michael Moore’s site because, I know how the Republicans and Democrats are when it comes to the polls. Republicans will always go and vote for their man, and Democrats…well dems can be lazy (You know…Big L, little a…), and some will just not go because their man is out of the race (Bernie fans. He’s finally out there encouraging the millennials to vote for Hillary), or it’s snowing, or the lines are too long, or they’ll pull a Nadar and vote for Gary Johnson in spite of his “Aleppo moments” and encouragement from Michelle Obama and President Obama - that a no vote or a vote for a third party candidate is a vote for Trump. (Oh, when will Dems realize how badly we’ll be screwed if they do this again? Did we learn nothing from voting for Nadar?)
This was first posted on Moore’s site almost two months ago but I very much think it is still relevant. You may not agree with all Moore says (I don’t) but he’s making a lot of sense. I like using sarcasm to get a point across. Moore does it in a way where the humor may not appeal to you, but I encourage you to look beyond that and consider the seriousness of what he is saying.
From Michael Moore:
Over the past few days, a number of polls have come out showing Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump nationally by double digits, including in blue collar states like Michigan (10%) and Pennsylvania (11%). If you are a Clinton supporter and have felt a sense of relief when you saw these numbers, your shoulders suddenly relaxing and an audible “phew” coming from your mouth, if you got excited that your belief system was now reassured that there was no chance your fellow Americans will vote for a narcissistic misogynist, then you just became part of the problem — and why Donald J. Trump could actually win on November 8th.
Please do not think for a second this election is over or in the bag. There are three long months to go. If you think that all we have to do is just let Trump keep shooting himself in the head – that “Trump will beat Trump” and the rest of us just have to sit back and watch with glee – well, you are playing with fire. And you’re looking for a way to get out of doing any work. Clearly you’ve forgotten this election is not about whether there are more people “for” Hillary or Trump. Of course there are more people for Hillary! She will lead in the opinion polls from now until Election Day.
AND IT DOESN’T MATTER.
Because this is not a popularity contest decided by polls (or in this year’s edition, a contest over who you dislike the least). As I’ve said, if people could vote from their sofa via their Xbox or remote control, Hillary would win in a landslide. But this election is only about who SHOWS UP to the VOTING BOOTH on November 8th (or to early voting or by absentee ballot). The election this year is not being held as usual on the first Tuesday of November; it’s happening in the second week of the month, so if you live in the top half of the country, that means a greater chance for snow or icy rain — and that means a lower turnout. A lower turnout helps Trump.
This election is ONLY about who gets who out to vote, who’s got the most rabid supporters, the kind of candidate who inspires people to get out of bed at 5am on Election Day because a Wall needs to built! Muslims are killing us! Women are taking over! USA! USA! Make My Penis Great Again! Hillary is the Devil! America First! Fetus First! First in Line at the Polls!
So instead of feeling better this week because of the new polls (BTW, only one of these polls is of “likely voters” – the Reuters Poll – and in that one, Hillary leads by only 4 points), or regaling over Trump’s insanity (so insane, he raised $82 million last month in mostly $10-$20 contributions, stunning the Clinton campaign, because Bernie never had a grassroots month anywhere near that), I would like to suggest a different response. I’d like to ask those who love Hillary to hold off on the victory party ’til the wee hours of November 9th. Please, can we all agree that now is NOT the time to do this: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/25/434585015/not-over-til-its-over-runners-early-celebration-costs-her-the-bronze
Let’s stop the early celebrating and the gloating over Trump’s Bad Week. No premature end zone dances. If you are serious about this election, and if you are smart enough to still take Donald Trump seriously, then here’s 5 things to do – four for you, and one for Hillary:
- You Are Responsible for Getting 50 People to the Polls November 8th. Start making your list now. Create this list on your smart phone of the people you will personally make sure show up to the polls on November 8th. Enter their email addresses and cell phone numbers. Call it your “November 8th Project.” Add a name to it every single day between now and November 8th until you have 50 people – 50 names in 90 days. Focus on nonvoters. Then, on November 7th and 8th, call, text and/or email every one of them and remind them to vote. Offer them a ride. Offer them lunch. Offer to watch the kids. Offer to mow their lawn. Plan a get-together or a party for everyone after going to vote. You must remind even those people who you think don’t need reminding. This election isn’t about you voting —it’s about you getting 50 others to vote.
- From Today Until November 8th, You Are in the French Resistance. Imagine what it was like to be in the French underground while the Germans invaded France. The only possible way to win was an unrelenting, round-the-clock commitment to defeat the Nazis. There was no time for one of those 3-hour French dinners. They did not take vacations. They did not sleep in. They did not have time for “playdates.” The Germans were coming! The Germans were there! Well, friends, our fascist (Drumpf!) is coming! That’s the mind-set you need to be in. For the next three months, the kids have to get themselves to soccer! Work on your marriage in December! There’s no time for hot yoga! No one in the French Resistance ever said “I can’t blow up that Nazi train today ’cause I feel like I might be coming down with a cold!”
- You Must Be Supportive of the Depressed Voter. So many people have given up on our system and that’s because the system has given up on them. They know it’s all bullshit: politics, politicians, elections. The middle class in tatters, the American Dream a nightmare for the 47 million living in poverty. Get this straight: HALF of America is planning NOT to vote November 8th. Hillary’s approval rating is at 36%. CNN said it last night: No one running for office with an approval rating of 36% has ever been elected president (Trump’s is at 30%). Even in these newer polls, 60% still say that Hillary is “untrustworthy to be president.” Disillusioned young people stop me every day to tell me they’re not voting (or they’re voting 3rd Party). This is a problem, folks. Stop ignoring it. You need to listen to them. Chastising them, shaming them, will not work. Acknowledging to them that they have a point, that Hillary Clinton is maybe not the best candidate, and then promising them that you will join them on November 9th in a political revolution that will demand Clinton enact her platform, that might go a long way to getting them to vote. They don’t have to change their opinion about Hillary. They just have to reluctantly vote for her and be allowed to feel very bad about doing it – and very good that we will fight on their side after the election.
- Hillary Must Slyly Stick Trump with a Comedy Shiv During the Debates. Bill Maher and I will help Hillary with this (Hill, call us!). I’m sure Amy Schumer and Chris Rock would chip in, too. Clinton actually has a good sense of humor, but keeps it mostly hidden (here she is back in the ’90s, sparring with a Republican leader of Congress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XsSydPOgCc). Trump has very thin skin. If she can slide the perfect line of satirical ridicule just under that thin skin of his, he will implode. On live TV. And that, my friends, will be the moment it’s over for him. A complete mental meltdown on a stage without his cheering man-fans in the room. BOOM!
- I Hereby Appoint You Precinct Captain in Your Neighborhood, in Your School, and at Your Place of Work. Yes, you. Tell them Michael Moore personally named you. Not because I have any authority to do so. Just because I said so. And you said so. Please, friends, do not depend entirely on the “Democratic Party” to pull this off in November. It is often, depending on where you live, an apparatus of numskulls, hacks and former high school student council rejects. Quick, name the local chair of the Dems in your county. They are not of the people. If we depend just on them, we lose. We usually do. Obama had a brilliant campaign team, was a beloved candidate, and that’s why he won. Hillary’s campaign lost 22 states to a 74-year old socialist who had neither a comb nor 50 bucks in his pocket — and was unknown to everyone except me and some hippies in Vermont! Hahahaha! Here’s a tweet this week from one of Hillary’s “top advisers”, the chair of the “Campaign for American Progress”, just to give you a clue as to the brain trust surrounding her:
So we can’t just depend on them alone to stop Trump. That’s why I’ve decided to appoint myself, as of this moment, chair of the “Shadow Campaign to Defeat Donald J. Trump” (or, in short, “The Resistance”) — and I’m appointing each and every one of you as my Precinct Captains in the areas where you live, work and go to college. From this moment forward you will organize the block you live on, or the town or neighborhood you live in, or your dorm, your office, or your place of worship. If asked, just identify yourself as the “Local Head of the Defeat Trump Coalition.” If others want to be the “Head” or say they are the “Head,” just share the title with them. Then appoint more Precinct Captains. Don’t hold meetings. Do actions. Use humor. Conduct flash mobs. Be a disruptor. Think creatively and subversively. Have fun. Defeat Trump.
Because, you see, we have no choice. We’re in the Trump Resistance.
Yours in revolution and future playdates,
Michael Moore
P.S. Still feeling giddy about all the bad news surrounding Trump this week? Here’s another bucket of cold water: Trump can actually lose Florida, Virginia, Colorado and New Mexico — and STILL WIN! All he has to do is carry the rust belt “Brexit States” of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Hillary lost three of these four in the primaries. Nothing can be taken for granted. Once more: This is all about who shows up November 8th — not who’s ahead in the popularity polls right now. On the morning of the Michigan Primary, Hillary was ahead of Bernie in a WJBK/TV2-Detroit poll by 22 points. Twelve hours later, she lost. Leave your bubble now! You are a Precinct Captain! You have work to do!
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Readers: So, yes, even though my feeling are that whites are voting color, more than likely I will still continue pointing out Trump is this and Trump did that. But what I won’t do is get complacent and think, “There is no way Trump can win. There is no way that many people will vote for him.”
What I won’t do is assume that just because Hillary has won this debate (and more women are feeling better about Hillary and worse about Trump), or any debate against Trump, that she is going to win the presidency.
I am not going to take that victory lap, or dance in the end-zone until after Hillary has won. I hope you’ll do the same and heed Moore’s advice and do something today 2 get Hillary elected.
Thoughts? Blog me.
Howard: I so enjoyed reading your comments. Thank you for the kind words. You are obviously very proud of your girls, and you have every reason to be. No apology necessary. I consider all women girls. :) Thanks to you and your daughters for reading.
Social Butterfly: That was hilarious. I so needed that humor. Thanks for posting. Keep ‘em coming! xo
Thanks too for reminding everyone about VOTER REGISTRATION DAY. READERS: If you haven’t registered, PLEASE DO IT TODAY! :)
Peace out.
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September 29th, 2016 at 10:01 am
I agree Michelle, we cannot assume that America will suddenly get wise to DT. Each of us must do what we can to promote Secretary Clinton for the office of POTUS. Talk, talk, talk politics as much as you can with your family and your neighbors, spread support for Clinton on social media, call out DT’s hypocracy, volunteer to assist with Clinton’s campaign.
Michelle Vitalione made the following quote, and I think it’s so true the double standard of whats acceptable and excused behavior for men vs. women and the standard is glaring between our two candidates:
“Imagine a woman who showed up [to a president debate] unprepared, sniffling like a coke addict and interrupting her opponent 70 times. Let’s further imagine that she’s had 5 kids by 3 men, was a repeated adulterer, had multiple bankruptcies, paid zero federal taxes and rooted for the housing crisis in which many thousands of families lost their homes. Wait … there’s more: she has never held any elected office in her life.”
Think on that!
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Before I go, one more chuckle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ablbj4fyAKk
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Get out the vote people!
/SB
September 29th, 2016 at 10:26 am
wait, there’s more. This in from yesterday at Standing Rock. Check out the photos of all the riot gear :(
They are blocking all media access, facebook, etc.
http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2016/09/standing-rock-breaking-news-surrounded.html
I’m not sure what the answer is to get this harassment to stop, but I’m very sure that its time for term limits in Congress. We can’t sit by and allow them to hijack democracy any longer.
/SB
September 29th, 2016 at 11:16 am
SuzyQ#25, “My advice is get out now if anybody reading is still with WF”
I took it. went down to WF today and closed my checking, savings and money market accounts. My husband says he will have his business out by the end of the week.
We are going to encourage all our friends to do the same.
September 29th, 2016 at 11:20 am
Social Butterfly@1. I am a convert. Women are being held to a different standard. I intend to vote republican in every category as usual but I will vote for Hilary for POTUS.
September 29th, 2016 at 11:24 am
What happened to my comment? Michelle, you can’t take my vote for the GOP?
September 29th, 2016 at 11:30 am
LOL, thanks Social Butterfly. it made my day.
September 29th, 2016 at 11:32 am
Social Butterfly, I sent that little ditty to my husband. He is such an avid trump fan. He usually returns my text with in a few minutes. It’s been over an hour and still no response.
That’s what I call mouth closer.
September 29th, 2016 at 11:50 am
I have to agree with some of the posters here who say that there is noting dumber on the planet than the average american white woman.
My grandmother who is worth billions said that she is voting for trump. I asked her why she said “we need a business mind in the White House.”
I said but he has gone bankrupt so many times. She said, I don’t care what he has done in the past, I am voting for what he can do for us today.”
I said but he degrades women at every opportunity. She said “a man needs to take a firm hand with a woman.”
I said is that why you didn’t leave grandpa when he knocked you teeth out? She said I’m leaving all my money to your brother with the expressed direction that he keeps you on a paltry allowance for the rest of your life.
When I told my brother, he smiled and said don’t worry I’ve been poisoning that crazy bitch for months now. I was shocked and told him I wanted nothing to do with that.
He said that he bought a plutonium pellet gun from one of his business partners in Russia. It’s undetectable and the cancer appears to be natural.
I must have looked weird because he smiled and said just kidding.
September 29th, 2016 at 11:51 am
Loved them both Social Butterfly. Keep’em coming.
September 29th, 2016 at 12:05 pm
I would take Michelle’s and the article’s advice to heart. Presently the trump people are concentrating on salacious charges to level against Bill Clinton so they can claim that Hilary supported him against the women.
They are poised to release an old tired accusation, one that has been examined and found to be false several times in the past. But it has been slickly packaged for Wikipedia by some of the best smear mongers on the right.
Look for these accusations to arise between now and the next debate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Broaddrick
September 29th, 2016 at 12:11 pm
Very good reporting Social Butterfly. Here is another reason to drop Wells Fargo Bank.
WELLS FARGO TROUBLES MOUNT WITH PENALTY FOR IMPROPERLY REPOSSESSING SOLDIERS’ CARS
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/wells-fargo-troubles-mount-with-penalty-for-soldiers-car-loans
WELLS FARGO TROUBLES MOUNT WITH PENALTY FOR SOLDIERS’ LOANS
Wells Fargo & Co., reeling from weeks of pummeling over fraudulent customer accounts, is now facing a Justice Department sanction over improperly repossessing cars owned by members of the military, according to two people with knowledge of the investigation.
Federal prosecutors and the bank’s regulator, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, are planning to punish the San Francisco-based lender for alleged violations of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act, said the people, who asked not to be named because the investigation isn’t public.
A penalty of as much as $20 million is expected from the OCC, one of the people said. That’s an unusually large fine for abuse of this law, which in most cases requires that firms obtain court orders before seizing vehicles from soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who are delinquent on their loans.
These enforcement actions against the bank follow a $185 million settlement in which employees of the firm opened more than two million accounts that customers may not have been aware of with the aim of meeting internal sales targets.
The matter has sparked weeks of sharp criticism, congressional hearings and the forfeit of tens of millions in bonuses for top executives.
September 29th, 2016 at 5:29 pm
Agree and I’ll admit I was wrong, I thought it’d be slam dunk and nope the US has dumbed down even more than I predicted when I was a teen, sad but true. The only thing I can do here is send in my absentee ballot and I’ve noticed that even the big old white man club has slowed their roll, now they just say I hate them both and I may abstain from voting this time. We shall see…
Mike TM nothing truly new there. It’s the ‘if you didn’t like the first Clinton presidency, check this out’ BS rearing its head again.
I really wish candidates would run ads just highlighting their accomplishments and specific plans (even though we know it’s all blue sky stuff) and stop the negative bashing of each other, we would likely see a higher caliber of candidates in the pool, not many of the truly bright and intelligent are willing to have all the bones of the past pulled out of their closet to be POTUS. Just my opinion. It’s been going on for a long time I know but we won’t see change till that and campaign reform occurs.
Get out and vote…it does matter even though it’s the major billionaires of the world that are running the agenda, oops uh oh I’m in the rabbit hole of research again, sorry…
Luv, Zen Lill
September 29th, 2016 at 5:44 pm
And no I don’t have a tin foil hat : ) ~ ZL
September 30th, 2016 at 9:45 am
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