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Flap Your Lips Friday

Posted by Michelle Moquin on September 23rd, 2016

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This write from the Huff Po shows how a cop can murder an unarmed black person and his fellow cop buddies, aka thugs with guns, will allow him to plant a gun at the scene. How many times do you think this has happened?

Cop Says He’ll ‘Kill This Motherf****r’ In Video Of Fatal 2011 Shooting

Jason Stockley, no longer on the St. Louis police force, faces a murder charge.

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In this photo taken from video footage published by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, St. Louis police officer Jason Stockley, left, points an unauthorized AK-47 at drug suspect Anthony Lamar Smith’s vehicle on Dec. 20, 2011.

New video footage has surfaced of a 2011 deadly shooting for which a former St. Louis police officer is facing a murder charge, showing the cop during a high-speed pursuit threatening to kill the man he was chasing. Relatives of the slain man, who was black, have accused the cop of planting a gun after the killing.

Videos obtained and published this week by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch show the entire December 2011 incident, including police dashcam footage of Officer Jason Stockley’s attempted arrest of 24-year-old drug suspect Anthony Lamar Smith, the ensuing high-speed pursuit and the fatal shooting that led to a first-degree murder charge this year.

Stockley, who left the police force in 2013, has claimed he fired his weapon in self defense after Smith reached for a revolver police said was found in the vehicle, according to Post-Dispatch reports. Smith’s family, however, maintains that Smith was unarmed and that the gun was placed in his car after the fact.

Tests of the weapon showed only Stockley’s DNA, officials said. The officer said he handled the weapon to unload it after the shooting, the St. Louis newspaper reported.

Stockley was charged with murder in May ― more than four years after the shooting ― in light of new, undisclosed evidence. In August, a federal judge ordered that the records related to the shooting, including video, audio recordings and reports, remain sealed.

The newspaper said it obtained the videos from someone not involved in the legal proceedings.

Warning: The following video may be disturbing to viewers.

As seen in the video above, the incident begins in a restaurant parking lot, where officers attempt to arrest Smith following a suspected drug deal. When Smith flees in his vehicle, Stockley opens fire.

Stockley and fellow officer Brian Bianchi then pursue Smith, reaching speeds of more than 80 mph. Around the 4:10 minute mark of the video, Stockley says he’s “going to kill this motherf****r, don’t you know it.”

Soon after, Stockley tells Bianchi, who’s driving, to “hit him, hit him right now!” Bianchi rams Smith’s sedan with a police SUV, and Stockley jumps from the passenger seat and runs up to the suspect’s vehicle. Seconds later, he fires five shots into the vehicle, killing Smith.

The Post-Dispatch video shows separate footage taken by a witness, which the paper first published in June. That footage shows Stockley return to his vehicle two times, first to place an unauthorized, personally owned AK-47 into the back seat, and later to rummage through a duffle bag. After Smith’s body is dragged from the car, Stockley gets into the front seat, where he stays for roughly 30 seconds.

The Post-Dispatch reports Stockley is free on $1 million bail secured by the St. Louis Police Officers’ Association. A hearing in his murder case is reportedly scheduled for Oct. 3.

In 2013, the St. Louis Board of Police Commissioners paid a $900,000 settlement as part of a wrongful death suit filed on behalf of Smith’s young daughter.

Find the full report by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch here.

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This undated file photo provided by the St. Louis Police Department, shows former St. Louis police officer Jason Stockley, who was charged in May 2016 in the Dec. 20, 2011, death of 24-year-old Anthony Lamar Smith, a black man who was a drug suspect and was shot and killed after a high-speed chase. 

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Readers: It took 4 years to uncover the truth, thanks to cell phones and new evidence.

Thoughts? It’s Friday, you know what to do.

Blog me.

Irene: Yeah they wanted him to die. In my opinion, the cops most always want the black man they are shooting to die. They are not aiming to shoot a leg to incapacitate. The thugs want him dead so they can plant drug, guns, and make up stories. A dead man can’t talk and tell his side of the story.

Lisa: Ignorance and lockstep behind their husbands. Either way, they are giving up their power to men by not learning, and just following along.

Rebecca: This really saddens me. Kids should not have to go to school and have a discussion like this. And yet, I’m glad that it is being talked about amongst the students and the staff. Kids need to express their feelings, ask all the questions that are rolling around in their brains, vent if needed, and of course, cry. I never had to go through such horror as a child. No child should have to. And no black person should have to live with the fear of being senselessly killed when a cop pulls him over. Nia: Your comment says it all.

Toni: Yep, even at the expense of the country going to the proverbial hand-basket of shit. Well..it will certainly give plenty for people to bitch about if it does happen. I have faith that it won’t but I certainly don’t like what I’m seeing. Thanks for using your head and voting in your best interest and the best interest of the country. Hillary does need to kick some big ass and we need to get to the polls and take the Senate back. You got it correctamundo. Our country depends on Clinton’s SCOTUS nomination and the Senate’s confirmation.

Delores: I have total faith you can flip em.

Alycedale: Have I told you lately that your comments are just cracking me up? May I borrow your recent? I have a man I want to use them on.

Social Butterfly: I’ve seen it now, thanks to you. That is exactly what I keep saying. Along with the fact that I would be so embarrassed if I were a Trump voter and admitting it to anyone. But that’s the deal, if you were embarrassed you wouldn’t be voting for the scum. So you just walk around saying ignorant shit like Miller, while being an embarrassment to intelligent women like yourself.  Regardless of the reasons, this country is polarized when it comes to political opinions and choices this election season.

We have out work cut out for us. 

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31 Responses to “Flap Your Lips Friday”

  1. Citizen Outrage Says:

    In case you thought the Repugnants in Washington weren’t up to doing work, think again:

    WASHINGTON — The U.S. Senate passed a measure authorizing the nation’s defense programs Friday, and along with it managed to give lands sacred to Native Americans to a foreign company that owns a uranium mine with Iran.

    The $585 billion National Defense Authorization Act of 2015 is one of the must-pass pieces of legislation that Congress moves every year. But like they did in attaching extraneous riders to the must-pass government funding bill, lawmakers used the defense bill as a vehicle to pass a massive public lands package.

    The bill sailed through on a vote of 89 to 11.

    Many of the land measures were popular. But one, the Southeast Arizona Land Exchange and Conservation Act, had twice failed to win support in the House of Representatives, blocked both by conservationists and conservatives.

    The deal gives a subsidiary of the Australian-English mining firm Rio Tinto 2,400 acres of the Tonto National Forest in exchange for several other parcels so it can mine a massive copper deposit.

    The Iran connection comes from a uranium mine in Namibia, in which Tehran has owned a 15 percent stake since the days of the shah.

    Rio Tinto, which removed Iran’s two members of the mine board in 2012, has argued that Iran gets no benefit from the property, that there is no active partnership, and that it has discussed the issue with the U.S. State Department to ensure that no sanctions against Iran are violated.

    A State Department spokesperson confirmed that officials had discussed the site, but declined to say that they could assure there were no violations of sanctions.

    “We are aware of the mine in question and have discussed relevant compliance issues with the company,” the spokesperson said.

    The official also declined to say if, as might be expected, Iran would be able to benefit from the mine if Secretary of State John Kerry is successful in negotiations to limit the regime’s nuclear aspirations, and sanctions are lifted. “We are not going to speculate on any hypotheticals,” the official said. A Rio Tinto official also declined to speculate, but noted that under the current sanctions and Namibian law, it’s impossible to buy out Iran’s share or sever the tie.

    Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) mounted a bid to strip the entire lands package from the bill, but secured only 18 votes in his favor.

    It’s not only people concerned about any benefit Iran might get who were worried about giving American forest land to a foreign firm that has such a connection.

    Native Americans, particularly the Apache tribe in the area, say digging a massive mine under their ancestral lands will destroy sacred ceremonial and burial grounds.

    Rio Tinto says it will work closely with the tribes to ensure their concerns are heard, and will work with the U.S. Forest Service to protect the environment.

    The measure was added into the NDAA largely thanks to the efforts of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who, along with fellow Arizona Republican Sen. Jeff Flake, sees the project as an economic boon that will create 3,700 jobs over several decades.

    Flake acknowledged that the deal never would have passed on its own, even as he lamented the process that got it through the Senate.

    “It’s never good to see big packages with so many things in them — that’s what we want to get away from,” Flake said. “But it’s been very difficult to move individual pieces of legislation over the last few years.”

    In this case, the addition of the Arizona swap and the other land measures were never discussed in public, and were added during secret negotiations between the House and Senate Armed Services Committee. the deal was never publicly revealed until the House started work on passing the entire defense bill last week.

    It will become law as soon as President Barack Obama signs it. Rio Tinto, though subsidiary Resolution Copper, will take possession of the land a year later. Although the land will then be private property and federal environmental reviews will no longer be enforceable, the company said in a statement after the measure passed that it would abide by such reviews. It also pledged to be a good neighbor:

    “Resolution Copper Mining is pleased that the Southeast Arizona Land Exchange and Conservation Act passed the House of Representatives and the Senate with strong bipartisan support. Passage of the legislation means that Resolution Copper can move forward with the development of this world-class ore body which will create approximately 3,700 jobs, generate over $60 billion in economic impact and result in almost $20 billion in state and federal tax payments,” said project director Andrew Taplin.

    “There is much more work to be done before commercial mining can begin and Resolution Copper looks forward to working with all stakeholders as we continue to progress through the regulatory review process toward responsible development and operation of a world-class copper mine that will safely produce over 25 percent of the current annual demand for copper in the United States.”

    Once the legislation is signed into law by President Obama, Resolution Copper will focus on the comprehensive environmental and regulatory review under NEPA, where there will be broad public consultation, government-to-government consultation with Arizona Native American tribes and a comprehensive valuation appraisal of the copper deposit as required by Congress.

    Resolution Copper plans to work to expand existing partnerships and create new ones with neighboring communities and Native American Tribes. The company will endeavor to hire locally and regionally whenever possible.

    The heart of the legislation is the exchange of 2,400 acres of federally owned land above the copper deposit for 5,300 acres of land owned by Resolution Copper composed of valuable recreational, conservation and culturally significant land throughout Arizona. Congressional leaders made significant improvements to the legislation to address community, environmental and tribal concerns. These changes include provisions for completion of a full Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) prior to the exchange of title, extraordinary protections for historic Apache Leap, and safe access to the Oak Flat Campground after the exchange has been completed.

    Michael McAuliff covers Congress and politics for The Huffington Post.

  2. Citizen Outrage Says:

    This act is outrageous and every citizen should be writing their congress members to express their displeasure. If you think this doesn’t pertain to you, just wait, because next, the government will be coming for YOUR home.

  3. SuzyQ Says:

    re: the Wells Fargo posting you recently made. This, out of Washington today:

    Wells Fargo CEO John Stumpf is no longer an advisor to the Federal Reserve.

    On Thursday, Stumpf handed his resignation into the Federal Advisory Council, a group of 12 bank executives that advise the Fed board, according to a statement from a San Francisco Fed spokesperson. The CEO was appointed his role by the San Francisco Fed in 2014, though he didn’t assume his responsibilities until 2015.

    The council members meet with the Fed’s Board of Governors four times a year in Washington D.C. to discuss economic and banking matters.

    “John made a personal decision to resign as the Twelfth District’s representative to the Federal Advisory Council. His top priority is leading Wells Fargo,” a representative for Wells Fargo said in an emailed statement.

    Though earlier on Thursday, five senators called for Stumpf to be replaced on the council, including Sens. Angus King, Elizabeth Warren, Jeff Merkley, Ron Wyden, and Maria Cantwell.

    “It would be ironic if the Federal Reserve, a key federal banking regulator tasked in part with ensuring the fair and equitable treatment of consumers in financial transactions, continued to receive special insights and recommendations from senior management of a financial institution that just paid a record-breaking fine to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau for ‘unfair’ and ‘abusive’ practices that placed consumers at financial risk,” they wrote in their letter.

    The news comes as Wells Fargo WFC 0.04% continues to face heavy scrutiny over creating some 2 million phony accounts. Stumpf has been asked to claw back his pay or even resign as a result.

    On Tuesday, the CEO tried to apologize in front of the Senate, but the audience was unforgiving and left unsatisfied. The House Financial Services Committee has scheduled a hearing over the matter for Sept. 29, where it would like Stumpf to testify.

    A representative for the San Francisco Fed told Fortune that a search process for his successor will begin soon.

    This is just common sense. TG we have someone like Elizabeth Warren ready and able to call out these fraudsters. Someone needed to step up to clean house, and I’m proud she’s doing it.

  4. Zen Lill Says:

    28 Laura 29 breacher 30 Jim All valid points. There’s no video of prior 5-10 minutes but I’ve watched this video and helicopter video several times, with hands up he walked away from cops who had guns drawn. Orders given and resisted/ignored. Bad choices. Armed or not armed, he kept walking, as these 3 commenters indicated, firstly why? Secondly, he didn’t stop and at that point all 5 people are making second by second decisions, were they supposed to think he wanted to suddenly show ID. The whole scenario is suspect on all counts. You can call me a racist but I’m also a cops daughter, yes they ‘signed up for the job’ but they didn’t sign up for any citizen to just not respond to direct commands. There’s more backstory to this and I’m not saying that I don’t agree that too many black men are being shot by badges but if you know the badge is the ‘bad dude’ with a gun pointed at you, just stop and comply.

    I’m white and I was pulled over (I was admittedly not thinking, was wrapping up an important call and leaned toward my glovebox) hung up phone and when I looked in rearview as I was coming back to center of seat I saw the female cop approach body sideways, gun drawn, I kept my hands on the steering wheel and after being asks for ID & reg I told her exactly what I needed to do waited for her approval I repeated that I needed to lean towards the floor in passenger side for wallet etc…when I did it all I moved very slow until she put that piece away. Yes if she shot me there would be hell to pay and no video rolling but fek she had a gun and I didn’t, I shut the hell up and did what j was told.

    By the way, humans react in fight or flight in many situations, add guns to it and everyone goes into adrenaline phase, cops and ‘potentially’ dangerous person. Should they be better trained to de-escalate, yes. Should they have better screening process for the job, yes.
    My question is: Would anyone want this job anymore? You’re screwed going in, you’re called into unknown situations (always potentially dangerous) and then you’ve got people (under stress also) doing things like digging in pockets, not listening to commands and taking you on high speed chases.

    Ugh…it’s a bad situation all the way around.

    The cop in today’s article was/is a racist and was way out of order, of course, if you’re intention is to kill the mother jumper than you’re going in to kill.

    Just a quick ecpectation question.
    Are people (anyone, me included) who take cops on a 80mph chase for miles and then finally pull over, are you expecting hey hi nice day may j see your ID please from that cop? I would expect him/her to be pissed and suspect of me, that’d be a natural reaction.

    If this lines me up as a racist, think again, I’m not, and you know it.

    the US needs a rehaul in many regards, the police and use of force is only one system that’s very broken, this election is another broken system, America needs to wake up. Fast.

    Luv, Zen Lill

  5. Zen Lill Says:

    Let me add a PS he should’ve been tazed by both at best. I am totally curios how a cop going to another call stumbled upon a suv in the middle of the road and what went down, the whole thing is suspect, as I said we aren’t getting full disclosure here. ~ ZL

  6. Abeque Says:

    It’s not enough to murder 12 million North American Natives, and follow that with a slow oppression of poverty and rape of the land while collecting taxes?

    Now the racist republicans want to continually steal and contaminate Sacred lands including Reserve lands without consultation?

    Why, is this still happening? How can this type of greed be stopped once and for all, so native Americans can finally live in peace with some security?

  7. Abie Says:

    It’s not enough to murder 12 million North American Natives, and follow that with a slow oppression of poverty and rape of the land while collecting taxes?

    Now racists republicans want to continually steal and contaminate Sacred lands including Reserve lands without consultation?

    Why, is this still happening? How can this type of greed be stopped once and for all, so native Americans can finally live in peace with some security?

  8. Abie Says:

    Michelle, you need to fix your blog. Many of my native American friends said that when they attempt to us their native names to post to your blog it refuses to post it.

    Qaletaqa solved the problem. He suggested we use an qochata(Hopi for white man) name. So I chose Abie and it posted.

  9. Abie Says:

    My true name is Abeque.

  10. Baahir Says:

    Michelle, I am a new arrival to your country. I arrived November 11, 2014. I work here on a special visa. I love your country. I have discovered new freedoms that women in India can’t imagine.

    One of the best things, reading your blog, I brought with me. I have been reading it for 6 years, since I was 19, It made me study hard because I wanted to come to the land you lived in. It has been worth it. You work so hard for women and for the thing about American that makes it the world’s most desired place to live in.

    I love you.

  11. Ray Says:

    Abeque#8, sorry you are having problems. I’m sure Michelle will try to fix it. I would like to reply to your Abie#6 post.

    Humanity is reaching “Peak Everything” – pretty soon it’ll be apparent to all of us that we are, as a planet, running out of critical resources that are capable of sustaining our current materialist/consumerist lifestyle – a lifestyle that the indigenous peoples of this country have never embraced or believed was sustainable.

    The battle between the believers in consumerism and those opposed to it is likely to get uglier as more and more resources become rarer and rarer. It’s a sad state of affairs, but unless we get more indigenous peoples in to leadership roles at the highest level we are likely to run off the cliff like a pack of lemmings.

    The irony in all of this is that I believe most humans would gladly live with a lot less if they believed it was a sustainable existence with a certain future for future generations.

  12. Helena Says:

    Zen Lill#4
    28 Laura 29 breacher 30 Jim All valid points. There’s no video of prior 5-10 minutes but I’ve watched this video and helicopter video several times, with hands up he walked away from cops who had guns drawn. Orders given and resisted/ignored. Bad choices. Armed or not armed, he kept walking, as these 3 commenters indicated, firstly why? Secondly, he didn’t stop and at that point all 5 people are making second by second decisions, were they supposed to think he wanted to suddenly show ID. The whole scenario is suspect on all counts. You can call me a racist but I’m also a cops daughter, yes they ‘signed up for the job’ but they didn’t sign up for any citizen to just not respond to direct commands. There’s more backstory to this and I’m not saying that I don’t agree that too many black men are being shot by badges but if you know the badge is the ‘bad dude’ with a gun pointed at you, just stop and comply.

    “must and compy,” you say. How do you know that he wasn’t following orders and complying?

    Did you hear a conversation between the officer)s) and the victim? Of course not because the thug with a badge turned off her body cam and didn’t turn on her car lights which would have activated her car cam.

    Anyone of those actions should lead one to suspect her motives. But combined they say she did not want the encounter recorded.

    I was with my brother when two white cops told him to keep his hands up and then they told him to show his ID, when he reached for it they shouted “gun” and shot him 7 times. That happened June 9, 1972 when we were stopped because he made an illegal left out of a MacDonalds.

    Did your cop father tell you that white cops use the “hands up, show me your…..” routine to murder OTWs whenever they feel like it?

    Are you so naive that you think a cop is in “fear of his life” when he shoots an unarmed black man for making a sudden movement from a hands up position?

    If you do, then how do you explain to yourself why all those white mass murderers, including the recent the NYC terrorist who had a shoot out with the cops get to live when they not only have openly displayed guns but have just used them on civilians and the cops?

    Not a one of those armed encounters ended in the death of the non black perps.

    As for your pulled over encounter, rest assured if you had been black, you would not be telling that story, because you would be dead. That “scary” situation you survived, BECAUSE of your “white privilege.”

    So basically you are just bragging. Every OTW reading it knows it, why you don’t explains some of the ignorance expressed here by whites who just don’t get it.

    It is NOT about “stop and comply,” it is about driving while black,” BLM, unless you are being stopped by a racist thug with a license to murder you because he/she knows that whites like you, Zen Lill, won’t convict them because you are all too ready to give the murdering racist the benefit of the doubt once he/she claims he felt his life was in danger.

    It was the get out of jail free card the racist 5 SCOTUS gave the cops with the deliberate intention to make them the new mobile lynching trees of America.

    You claim to be so logical on this blog. Do you really think that when those cops are pulling the trigger so many times on those unarmed black men they are doing so because they are in fear of their lives?

    If you do then ask yourself, how many pulls of his trigger does it take for daddy to feel safe? Will he feel safe after he handcuffs the bleeding unarmed black man who he has just shot numerous times, or must he wait until the unarmed black man has bled out.

    Perhaps that’s why they allow the victims to lay there so long before they call for medical assistance.

    Oh, I’m sure your cop daddy had a convincing story as to why the victim is allowed to just bleed out. But if the unarmed black man was shot because he didn’t “stop and comply,” why is he forced to die in a pool of his own blood before medical assistance is called?

    Can’t wait to hear your logical explanation for that.
    Oh, yeah, maybe the cop is waiting for his “fear of death” to wane or better yet, maybe he is waiting for the victim to stop bleeding and comply.

  13. Cindy Says:

    John McCain should be ashamed! He is selling out for money over taking care of the land of the native people AND his own, when the destruction of this mining operation becomes apparent, it will be too late! Haven’t we learned anything? This must stop now!

  14. Morgan Says:

    Zen Lill#4, I’m an ex cop with 23 years of experience. I pulled my weapon several times during my service. When a cop pulls his weapon, he is telling the stopped person that he is uncomfortable and that he expects that person to comply in a manner that doesn’t give him cause to defend his life.

    That does not mean he will empty his weapon into the suspect if he doesn’t comply, nor does it mean he will not render immediate medical attention to the suspect once he has secured or ended the threat to his life.

    People do dumb things all the time, if a cop shot someone every time it occurred many many more civilians would be injured. My take on this is if those cops are that afraid of their lives, they either need more or better training or they need to be relieved of their weapons and shields as they have neither mental capacity or the emotional stability to be police officers.

  15. Paul Says:

    Cindy#12, Macain doled his soul to the devil many years ago, he is in this for the MONEY, macain stands to make 10s of millions off this deal, just like harry reid would have from the sale of his many ranches in NV.

  16. Ray Says:

    Cindy#12, Mccain has no shame he proved that when he lost a landslide election by being ‘mr. bigshot’ , excuse my spelling.

  17. Maritza Says:

    Will the Militias stand with the Natives??? What an incredible statement that would make!

  18. Karen Says:

    who gave McCain the right to take tribal lands away from them….and now he gets his fair share of raping the Natives again…..what a loser

  19. Denise Says:

    This is insanity the republicans behaving like bought and paid for traitors. For a nation that thinks it’s leading the world, we are living in the dark ages. Ensuring sacred places are accessible to those who have right relations to that place is more important than anything else.

    To those who make these decisions your children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will be the ones to wear your shame this is the legacy you pass onto them

  20. Larry Says:

    I am full blooded American with native American Indian blood and I feel for my brothers and I understand their pain. They have been lied to again and again and again by our so called leaders who do nothing for any American least of all native Americans.

    Vengeance is GOD’s alone but I don’t know how much more we can take before He allows us to fight back and take back what He gave us.

  21. Jimmy Says:

    Maritza#16, They won’t, because most ranchers out west do not think Indians should have any land, and that it should belong to them to do with as they please.

    There are some white ranchers that are good out there, and if push come to shove would stand shoulder to shoulder with the Indians, just not very many.

  22. Vanessa Says:

    Zen Lill#4, anyone who has read a post of yours knows that you are not a racist. I just take issue with some of your conclusions, actually only part of this one.

    I’m white and my father and sister are cops. They are not racists. They say that yes your adrenaline is running high, but they also say they are trained not to allow their nerves to make their judgments.

    There is no excuse for treating a suspect outside the bounds necessary to protect the lives of the police or civilians the suspect may be threatening.

    Good cops don’t allow their emotions to deprive suspects of their constitutional rights. So the answer to your question of should the suspect who took those officers expect to be treated according to the rights afforded to him by the Constitution once the danger he posed to those officers and any citizens was over, is a firm YES.

  23. Zen Lill Says:

    Helena, I gave my story to tell you that perhaps it was white privelege, likely, I was a minority in the factory area of Los Angeles that day. Perhaps that Latina wanted to shoot me based on that alone but did not. I’ll never know. I’m sorry about your brother, and all the black men that hear hands up don’t move and get shot anyway. I cannot claim to know FOR CERTAIN what occurred in this particular case, I’m also saying there are missing details due to no video before, did she do it on purpose? Won’t wver know that either but she did get charged today, that won’t bring him back but she should be held accountable since she too could’ve just tazed. I won’t comment on ‘my daddy’s’ thoughts since he’s been gone close to 18 years.

    Morgan, agreed, and much better training has to be the change because this kind of trigger sensitivity has gotten too far out of hand.

    ~ ZL

  24. Carlos Says:

    Let me tell you as a fellow vet that mcCain is no hero. In the Nov. 73 issue of Newsweek, McCain himself says the first thing he told his captors was “if you take me to a hospital I will give you military information”.

    His injuries came from ejecting from his A4, not from being tortured. He never learned the proper ejection procedure from the A4 and injured himself.

    In 1992, in Senate hearings, McCain did everything in his power to make sure that all the USG’s information about POWs remain buried. He even left Dolores Alfond, sister of a POW and head of the Alliance of Families, in tears from his verbal abuse as she testified.

    I can tell you personally that I interviewed–extensively—-Col. Bui Tin, commander of the Hanoi Hilton, in 1997. He freely admitted torturing dozens of POWs but said that McCain was a special prisoner and was never tortured.

    “We called him the Prince” was his statement. And think of this. Who was the only POW to return to the US weighing more than when he was captured?
    You got it! Welcome home, brother.

  25. Suzie Says:

    Please remember, there is historical use of the land by the Apache. However, it is not Apache land. The Apache never made a treaty with the US and therefore was never designated private land. The Apache just absorbed into the US.

  26. Billie Says:

    This land is not federal!!!!! It belongs to the state of Arizona, and allocated to the Apache nation. Where is our state government in this, and what is the state gaining in this land grab by the feds.

    Do we Arizonans need to go take the land of the legislators that vote for this and toss them out of their homes? Has this even been across the legislation of the state. I for one, am tired of big brother just taking what they want, like the playground bully,.

  27. Helena Says:

    Zen Lill#22, I hope I didn’t offend you that was not my intention. I’m sorry you had to experience that kind of terror. I have been there and I don’t wish it one. I was arrested for attempted assault upon a police officer.

    I was allowed to accept a plea bargain in which I had to agree not to testify against the officers who murdered my brother to get the assault charges dropped.

    My family and our white lawyer told me to because the said that regardless of my testimony, no white cop would be convicted on the word of a “nigger.” He smiled and said I’m sorry that’s just the way it is.

    I guess 40 plus years later nothing has changed.

  28. Social Butterfly Says:

    I’m glad the blog is finally addressing the Dakota pipeline protest. I posted about this in the past and even asked Michelle if she would cover it. I know she’s very busy but perhaps now she might ? in the meantime this video explains what it’s all about – what’s behind the largest gathering of Native Americans in 100 years.

    https://youtu.be/eSqrzIktvNk

    /SB

  29. Zen Lill Says:

    Helena, nor much offends me, I manage to keep on my big girl panties regardless of what goes on here. But thank you for saying that. & Yes in those moments I thought I’m maybe going to die young today bc I made a dumb move that got her suspicious of what I may have been digging for in the glove box?? And I couldn’t really blame her, it’s a known sketchy area.

    I guess not much has changed in 40 years and that’s just wrong when an attorney would say something like that in 2016.

    Vanessa, true enough though training is great on the right emotional temperament to begin with, apparently we’ve been recruiting a lot of the wrong temperament.

    Carlos, I’ve been to Hanoi Hilton, they display the jumpsuit mccain was wearing when captured. Other than that I’m amazed anyone made it out of there alive.

    /SB I’ve read what you’ve posted before and I’ll watch this video too, I’m just not fully up to speed in all of it to comment further yet but I’m glad you are putting here to educate me and everyone else on this.

    ~ ZL

  30. Michelle Moquin's "A day in the life of…" » Blog Archive » If Black Lives Truly Mattered… Says:

    […] Zen Lill, Helena, et al: This write interested me. Although we will never know what was truly said when thugs with guns shoot black men because unfortunately they appear to shoot to kill, leaving the cop and his/her fellow officers as the only ones able to give an account of the story. […]

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    […] /SB, Abeque, and all the indigenous peoples:  Thanks for posting your concerns. I knew very little about this pipeline. However I did more reading and what I have read really concerns me. […]